Apple Mac Tower

By learninmypc
Jun 8, 2013
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  1. I've never dealt with an apple mac so bear with me, please. A friend stopped by last night & told me he bought it for $10 & we think its 13 years old. Neither the keyboard or mouse that came with it work adequately so I have to use mine.
    Booting it up, I get a gray screen with tiny box that goes between a question "?" mark & a face.
    No way to shut it down with out pulling the power plug/power button. Not sure, but I think this is it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4
    TIA :)
  2. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,342   +297

    "?" implies the HD is not bootable OR the system can not be properly found.

    You need the Apple Tools CD to verify the disk is good (similar to windows CHKDSK).
  3. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    You're talking about a separate CD? Since it was bought at a garage/yard sale, I doubt that came with it. Would trying booting into safe mode work or not?
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,810   +1,431

    Maybe these tool CD's can be downloaded.
  5. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    If its a free download, I could try it. Otherwise it might be the first apple mac I get at a toy to play with cause I know if it don't work, I doubt he'll want it back.

    On 2nd thought, even if I could download it for free, how would I be able to make the usb boot first or whatever? I haven't tried booting into safemode,yet. Will try that shortly.
    "EDIT" No safemode using f8.
  6. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Bummer, I just noticed a sticker on the back side of this tower showing a local college name on it. Will that void this thread? I was trying to find out how to gain entry to the inside when I saw it. It is open now.
  7. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Are u looking to format it ?
  8. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,342   +297

    Hmm; think. Joe Doe wants to sell a system and NOT let any personal data go with it to the new user - - HOW to do that? REFORMAT the drive.

    The Mac has a special sequence to get into the Mach Kernel ( I forget just now ), that will NOT boot a system so it doesn't really matter.

    The Apple Disk Tools is a purchased item.

    If you want to invest in an Apple Install CD, then you could get the system to run again, but make sure of the Processor on it. There was a PowerPC and then an Intel and new installers for the PowerPC are no longer available.
  9. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Right ok .. turn mac on when u see white screen and hear the bong hold down the aplle key then press s. a black screen will appear with boot etc. then follow these steps exactly as written

    /sbin/mount -uw /
    rm /var/db/.applesetupdone
    reboot


    at end of each line press enter so after uw / press enter then after applesetupdone press enter then type reboot and press enter this should factory reset the hole mac
  10. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Ok, when I turn it on, I hear no bong sound, just a few almost inaudible tick tick tick, maybe more & then the gray screen with tiny box showing a ?mark & face in it. Nothing more.
    I'd have to ask the owner if he wants to invest that $$$ . How much might it be?
  11. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Ok soon as u turn on try holding down the apple key and pressing and holding s key 1 second after try couple times it should take u to a black screen with boot etc
     
  12. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    holding both down together untill u see black screen
  13. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Did I forget to say the mac keyboard don't work? It don't.
  14. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Ah I think u might of mentioned it ..ok sorry I cant help . if u do get 1 then try what I said
  15. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Ok. Thanks for trying.
  16. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    I don't know what I did, but I now have this on my Mac screen
    2013-06-08 14-39-34.356.jpg
    Tried using my mouse to click it, but it don't show on screen.
  17. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    I'm also hearing numerous clicking sounds from the tower. What might that mean? Its not continuous,its off & on.
  18. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,810   +1,431

    From my perspective, clicking sounds are usually mechanically related. Clicking might be related to HDD read and write errors. HDD issues can cause the mechanical parts inside to act strangely.
  19. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Should I leave it on or shut it down? I read online earlier Mac's have a built in fixer type thing if they're online. So for the fun of it, I just hooked it up to my DSl to see if anything good might happen.
  20. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    I'm going to contact the owner so I'm wondering about how much it might cost to get The Apple Disk Tools?
  21. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Do u mean the disc to format like same as a windows 7 disc etc . if u do u will still need a keyboard and mouse as u need to press certain keys through the process ..
  22. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Yes,I do mean the disc to format . I wasn''t sure the Mac KB was working but I'm using it to type this.
  23. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    Ok u should be able to do what I said above
  24. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Topic Starter Posts: 5,168   +229

    Ok, I''d stilll need to know a priice, even a guess is ok.:)
  25. terry5880

    terry5880 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 527

    A price for what bud I must of missed that part


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