Apple revamps MacBook Air, adds new 11.6" model

By Matthew
Oct 20, 2010
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  1. It is obvious captaincranky is the best haters here. A self-acclaimed genius knows everything. I always find him in every articles saying negative comments. Get a life, dont make techspot your world. Get out and made some real friends so that the negativity attitude of yours would disappear slowly. Life is good man.
  2. Leeky

    Leeky TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,378   +98

    I get that, I think I've misled you with my comments. I realise that the build of a device can be its limiting factors, not mentioning issues like battery capacities needing to be matched to hardware power consumption, etc etc.

    I meant generally speaking, like for example, getting the best GPU they offered in a particular range (say the Airs) meant ordering the most expensive model, which happens to come with larger capacity hard drive, and other extras you don't neccessarily want, nor wish for.

    The MacbookPro 15", i5 and i7 models are a good example of this. In order to have the GT330M 512mb GPU you have to order the i7 model, costing more money. It would be nice to have a GPU upgrade option so one could choose an i5 with the upgraded GPU (the 512mb instead of the i5's 256mb) and pay less money for it. I'd personally want the best CPU/GPU available, but I'm not fussed about the memory capacity, or disk capacity, as both of these can be replaced for considerably less money in most cases by doing it yourself.

    I've always found all models (except the mac pro) to be very closed with hardware upgrades - The specification I'd prefer always lies between the two extremes, and I feel like I've got to spend more in order to have the important hardware items I want, and accept others I don't neccessarily want in return. The same was true when I purchased my iMac a couple of years ago.
  3. ^ you didnt misled him. It is obvious he always react to every comments, even positive comments. he always say something. he always say to have an argument. well it is his life. thats the way he lives to this world so nothing to expect good from him.
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,350   +821

    Posting as a "Guest", is that the same thing as applying grease paint?
    What's the matter, you couldn't make it in Ringling Brothers Clown School, now you're going to come here and pretend to be a therapist. Nobody will take your opinion seriously if you you walk around smiling all the time, they'll think you're up to something. Life is good for me also! I enjoy talking to the stains in my underwear as much as I enjoy talking to you. That said, I choose not to mix these two pleasures further.

    Let's call it a draw, I won't bill your health insurance for that bit of counseling, and don't even think about billing mine.


    Act Two, How to deal with people that have English as 4th language....:rolleyes:
    I've seen phishing Emails with way better English than this. What are you in real life, a Nigerian Prince?
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,350   +821

    Stand back, I'm going to come to Apple's defense, better grab a screen cap.

    This really isn't the sole province of Apple. This topic came up the other night in this thread; http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic154927.html My stand is, bumping the CPU up a notch, really doesn't do all that much. I'm sure that statement could be argued at some length as well.

    The fact remains that nobody here is an "average consumer". That being said, the process of step up selling has relied on multiple changes to the configuration and adapted itself to the needs of the average consumer, (as well as profit margin). This has been going on since analog TV was king. A more powerful receiver was sold with a step up pair of speakers, perhaps a better turntable and cartridge as well. Desktops follow this tradition, they surely didn't invent it. In the same way that a mechanic, charges list price for parts purchased at wholesale, as well as his labor. PC makers will follow the same business model. The only thing that remains is to fake an "actual retail value", so they can sell you upgrade parts at a "discounted" price, which in fact, IS the retail price. Or didn't I understand that post either?

    So now, when I say that I agree that Apple does in fact limit packages more than some, I'll draw the "Aphole Corp" out to call me a "hater".

    So. if you want a full litany of choices, buy a Dell. Or better still, convince Newegg to open up a warehouse in Great Britain.
  6. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,262   +41

    IamBD went to the most expensive pc company to compare mac to pc. I find that disturbing in itself because I know when you googled those results you found 3-5 other pc companies that had the same specs but are 2-300 dollars cheaper.
  7. stensland

    stensland Newcomer, in training Posts: 65

    To be quite frank, I'm fairly disappointed in Apple, especially of late. When they came onto the market they were ahead of the game technologically speaking, but over these past few years they have been committing suicide in their business practice. They axed Abode Flash on their phones, restricted devs from using their own tools, and have for quite a while been out of the price range of a good deal of people and lacked real functionality. Apple throwing HDDs to the dogs is just another thing to add to the ever growing list of why I will never use them again. Sure, they are great products for commercial marketing, video editing, things along that nature, but if you want raw power for cheap and a plethora of do it yourself software / hardware you gotta go Windows. I'm sure Apple has some sort of reason for doing as they are with limiting what their users can actually do, but I can't see it. Eliminating HHDs in their new Air machines is a way to save power yes, but to do it at the expense of space when things like marketing and video editing rely on large amounts of space for high res, I just don't get what they are doing....
  8. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,408   +280

    The Air isn't sold to be a high res video editor. They can't even use a regular SSD in the air because they are physically too big, they couldn't make the computer that physical size otherwise.
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,350   +821

    We hit on this earlier, I thought the flash was on the main PCB, but as it turns out, it's a proprietary PCB flash assembly.

    The fact that you had to post the "isn't a hi-res video editor", comment, is an indicator of the fact that people are adding the own misconceptions to the hype already swirling around the product. Perhaps Steve Jobs never actually said that the "Air" was useful for actual video editing, but I'd venture a guess that he thought it in public, and his followers picked up on the vibes. :rolleyes:
  10. therickster90

    therickster90 Newcomer, in training Posts: 25

    Apart from being a cheapskate, I would buy one of these. My plastic $500 laptop has parts basically falling off of it, and it isn't exactly running Crysis either.
  11. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,408   +280

    I didn't just through the hires video part out there for grins CC. The dude I quoted did. It was included in my post because apparently he thought that it could have been an adequate machine for video editing, but the small SSD prevents that.
     
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,350   +821

    Believeth in This........

    Ain't it the truth. Sometimes you just have to sit them down and say, "and video editing is why, boys and girls, that on the eight day, God invented the desktop computer"!

    Sadly, with the current state of faith so badly in disarray, I doubt that you could get this point across, even it you floated it by them on Sunday.

    Well first I'd like to point out the the Macbook Air, hasn't been deemed indestructible.

    After that, you need to have a good talk with yourself, and decide, "plastic vs metal", and correspondingly, "chips or dents".

    Most netbooks won't run Crysis. Make no mistake, this is a netbook. albeit a very potent, very advanced, third generation issue.

    Since we now have 6 core CPUs in desktops, the bar has been raised quite a bit in the lower ranges of the performance envelope as well.
  13. I'm actually quite happy with the 11.6 Air. The display is not even close to a netbook.
    Performance wise its nowhere close to a net book. The integrated graphics and SSD makes it feel really zippy for most applications.

    I own a 15 inch Dell laptop and a 15 inch MacBook Pro but I prefer to carry this new MBA with me when I'm running from one meeting to another.

    Unless you have actually worked with an Apple laptop its easy to bash the MBA based on specs alone.

    But its much faster than what the specs lend you to believe.

    I use both PC's and Macs for work. Unless you're planning to do heavy video editing then the MBA is not for you.

    But with airlines cutting down on what you can carry with you on flights and TSA not bothering you if you have the MBA it's morevthan worth it :)


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