AthlonXP2100+ O/C'ing

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Yea, but you gotta realize, us users with Athlons running at say 1.8ghz, are running easily at the speed of P4 2100 gig users. Ah, the glory of Athlon.

Now we have 1700+ Tbred B running at 2400+ speeds with reasonable heatsinks... Athlon Rulez etc...
The 1.6a P4 is one of the best overclocking CPUs for sometime to be honest.

Welcome acidosmosis :wave:

But you have to admit AMD are best!!! (j/k)
I don't want to get into the AMD vs Intel thing either.

The thing about Pentium4s is a 2.4Ghz P4 has the same performance as a 2ghz AthlonXP. As for o/c'ing, before I thought I'd go ahead and put forth. As for now, I'll stick with what I bought.








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I dont see the above as an example of overclocking. the reason being that the 9500 pro and the 9700 pro are the EXACT same chip. the bios flash merely removes the artifically placed limitations that prevent the 9500 Pro from running at 9700 pro speeds. you would be "overclocking" only after you surpassed the 9700 clock speeds.

the same is not UNIVERSALY true of processor chips. a 1600 palamino is not the EXACT same chip as a 2400 Tbred.

true ISS, but a 1600 pal. is the same chip as a 1700 pal. its just when the 1700 came out it worked stably as a 1700, the 1600 didnt, thats cuz its a 1600, not a 1700....all the chips are made exactly the same way, with the same stuff....its just some work better than others.

Yeah, lets NOT start this again.

I think that AMD presents a total bargain, a CPU at prices that you can afford.

Maybe a P4 has that little bit extra - but hey its too damn expensive!

Both have their merits. Like Windows and Linux. Man, in the days past it was alpha vs i386. Lets just leave it at that.

Computers are cool. End of story. If you are happy with your computer, with what you are doing with it, and what it is doing for you, then leave it alone.

thats the thing phant, people dont wanna leave it alone, they want more, because they can get more....thats just what overclocking is

my post isn't about overclocking. its about no more of this AMD vs INTEL nonsense.....

I have previous posts about what I think about overclocking...

Why not? You are running something out of spec, that is overclocking. There is no difference between a XP2100 and an XP1600 (other than the 2100 was proven to run at that speed), but it's still OCing when you run the 1600 faster. The same goes for this. The core might be the same but it not rated for that speed. Doesn't mean it won't do it though

but that is just the point. they are not out of spec for what the chip is designed for. 9500's and 9700 non pro are UNDERCLOCKED R300 chips that is why the bios flash works.

its the same that ATI did with the 8500 LE's they took R200 chips and underclocked them via the bios. it is a more cost effective method of creating cards priced for different segments ofthe market.

If you want to get technical ISS, Overclocking is changing the clock frequency beyond spec. Any other changes made to get more out of a component is not technically overclocking. The thing is that many of the tweaks overclockers use aren't actually changing clock speed, many other things do. The Term overclocking has pretty much come to include all those things whether directly related to clock speed or not. Changing a device from its "out of the box" condition in order to acheive better performance is considered by most to be overclocking.

The point here is that the card was built and sold with certain specs, by changing them you have changed it from the way it was intended. Just because the 9700 is the same is not relavent because the 9500 was sold at those specs, not at the specs of the 9700. Changing it, even if only by flashing the BIOS, is still running it out of spec.

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thank you SB, saved me the time...

Same goes with Athlon XP's, and most other processor lines.

I think this thead has ran its life...dont you?

No offense, but I don't feel you can arbitrarily say that about any topic - A thread has "run is life" when people stop replying to it.

.. Or when it's locked.

that is precisely why I was quite specific in saying the spec for the R300 chip not the spec for any card running the R300 chip.
if the R300 chip is designed and manufactured to run at 325 core speed that is it's spec. what ever hardware or bios limitations a particular card maker takes to ARTIFICALLY limit the R300 chip from running at it's designed specs does not change what the spec of the R300 is.