ATI Radeon HD 5870 Review

2x GTX 285 SLI is much, much faster than a GTX 295. 1 GTX 295 GPU is between a GTX 260 and a GTX 275.
This new ATI 5870 is really fast. $100 cheaper than a dual GPU GTX 295. The GTX 295 used to cost almost $1000 USD. The ATI 5870x2 will destroy the GTX 295.
When Nvidia comes out with the GT300, ATI will already come out with the ATI 5890.
 
Great performance coming from ATI with the HD 5000 series. Another card to look forward to would be the HD 5770.

mailpup said:
One thing I noticed at the AMD/ATI website is that the current drivers available for the 5870 and 5850 only support Vista or Windows 7 (both 32 bit and 64 bit), not XP. I wonder if that will change later.
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Any further inputs on that?
 
Originally Posted by mailpup

"One thing I noticed at the AMD/ATI website is that the current drivers available for the 5870 and 5850 only support Vista or Windows 7 (both 32 bit and 64 bit), not XP. I wonder if that will change later."

Microsost STILL trying to put xp in its grave?? probably another attemt at the dx10/vista strategy.
 
fimbles said:
Originally Posted by mailpup

"One thing I noticed at the AMD/ATI website is that the current drivers available for the 5870 and 5850 only support Vista or Windows 7 (both 32 bit and 64 bit), not XP. I wonder if that will change later."

Microsost STILL trying to put xp in its grave?? probably another attemt at the dx10/vista strategy.
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For christ sake why wouldn't they? what else in computing is a decade old and still being supported?

probably another attemt at the dx10/vista strategy.
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no, probably an attempt to move on into the next three gens of technology....or the the 21st century.


I am quite impressed with the 5870, However this is not the direct x11 crysis crusher i expected it to be. Seems more of a dx11"foot in the door" entry level card to me. I wanted to see it kick the gtx 295s teeth in and steal them so it could not get a refund from the tooth fairy!
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actually it did kick the begeezus out of the the GTX 295, its a single GPU using beta drivers.
 
For christ sake why wouldn't they? what else in computing is a decade old and still being supported?
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Hey, its a pretty decent OS. (I'll have to save up a lot to get my hands on Windows 7. So ATI better come in with some XP drivers fast! LOL :D)
 
I know, I know. But you fail to see the point. It'll be really difficult to get both a Radeon 5000 series card and a Windows 7 copy on a tight budget. :)
 
Ritwik7 said:
I know, I know. But you fail to see the point. It'll be really difficult to get both a Radeon 5000 series card and a Windows 7 copy on a tight budget. :)
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no I get it Rit :), but at this point its not a budget card for a budget setup.

and there is really no good reason for them to write drivers for cutting edge tech for a three gen ago OS...sorry
 
Can't argue with you on that red. You hit it spot on. :)

Hopefully I'll be able to get my hands on both those in the near future.
 
the 5870x2 is obv going to be better than the gtx 295 because the 5870 already beats the gtx295 in some games...2 of them is over kill.and its a fair battle because the gtx295 is 2 gtx 275 sandwiched.i just checked the price of the 5870 at new egg.com and its only $380.so its a fairly good deal.
 
red1776 said:
its ten years old, and DX 9 , why would they?
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Because they are in the business of selling graphics cards. It's not necessarily AMD/ATI's mission to promote newer operating systems and get everyone off XP. If a substantial number of potential customers are still using XP and their systems otherwise meet requirements, that might be reason enough to produce a driver that supports XP even if XP users aren't getting the full technical advantages of DX 10 or 11.

Now, you might be right and AMD/ATI won't actually produce an XP driver but IMHO they will sell more cards if they do.
 
Vista and Windows 7 offer advantages that XP does not, especially regarding multi-GPU implementations. And given the fact that DX11 is strictly a superset of DX10, I don't see how they can provide hardware support for XP, unless someone manages to hack the code to enable DX11 support on XP.
 
It’s really like the story when we went from AGP to PCI Express. Years later guys were still wanting high-end expensive AGP graphics cards when it made no sense to pair such a graphics card with an old AGP system. This is the same case with an old budget PC running XP, why not just by a cheap Radeon HD 4870 or 4850 graphics card instead.

If you have $300 plus to spend on a graphics card and you are still running XP then your priorities are a little messed up ;)
 
Rage_3K_Moiz said:
Vista and Windows 7 offer advantages that XP does not, especially regarding multi-GPU implementations. And given the fact that DX11 is strictly a superset of DX10, I don't see how they can provide hardware support for XP, unless someone manages to hack the code to enable DX11 support on XP.
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It’s really like the story when we went from AGP to PCI Express. Years later guys were still wanting high-end expensive AGP graphics cards when it made no sense to pair such a graphics card with an old AGP system. This is the same case with an old budget PC running XP, why not just by a cheap Radeon HD 4870 or 4850 graphics card instead.

If you have $300 plus to spend on a graphics card and you are still running XP then your priorities are a little messed up
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spot on and spot on!

the XP argument is like complaining that you bought a 2005 Ford, and then expect Ford to come out and change your vehicle out for the new model for free every year. if you want the new stuff...then you have to get the new stuff!
 
Windows 7 is pretty cheap too if you're a student. I've ordered my copy of Windows 7 Professional for $30! Now that's awesome pricing!

EDIT: I'm not eligible (non-US student), so it's a no-go. :(
 
Nvidia, ati ..blah blah blah. who cares what company makes it.stop comparing companies and start comparing gpu.
 
EDIT: I'm not eligible (non-US student), so it's a no-go.
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Hmmm Rage. My college is closed for the holidays so I can't find out from the Admin as to whether I'll be able to get it through them. But I have a feeling (a very strong one) that I won't be eligible either. :(

So now it's a question of waiting for Windows 7 prices to fall (if at all).
 
FWIW, AMD/ATI now has drivers that support the 5800 series for Windows XP.
 
i read one time in a magazine a thing that nvidia is cheating about crysis. if u use ati graphic card change the name crysis.exe into game.exe and ull get 20 more fps
 
Wow, this looks like one heck of a card. I wonder what kinda performance the HD 5770 is gonna bring to the table...
 
What a loser, gtx 295 is X2 based, which means there is 2 GPU, HD 5870 is only single GPU, go test out HD 5870X2 with GTX 295, it beat the **** out Nvidia's.
 
Guest said:
What a loser, gtx 295 is X2 based, which means there is 2 GPU, HD 5870 is only single GPU, go test out HD 5870X2 with GTX 295, it beat the **** out Nvidia's.
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Interesting opinion, you do realize that Nvidia is still yet to release their next gen products right? The GeForce GTX 295 is still a beast!
 
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