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Best SSD for gaming vs Windows 7

By Burty117
Jun 27, 2013
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  1. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,026   +913

    I am with you about Dell xD! I only buy monitors from them if anything, otherwise I hate them.

    Check out these videos about GTX 780 performance @1080P vs @1440P:

     
  2. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    Ok, so it doesn't make a massive hit on performance but something like crysis 3 does go below 60fps, hhhhmmm, I think I'll stick with my 1080p for the time being and wait until battlefield 4 comes out, if that game runs at 60fps at 1440p, then hell yeah will I upgrade to 1440p :)
     
  3. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,026   +913

    It wont xD.
     
  4. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,169   +176

    Running that one. Think I got it for sub $700 AUD inc shipping a few months ago now.

    Also I treat a monitor as a longer term investment. A 5+ year item whereas a vid card much shorter so worst case, you could run a game on the 1440p monitor at reduced settings in the short term until a planned vid card upgrade. Particularly with older games, you will get the benefit of 1440p @ max settings straight away.
     
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  5. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    Well the only reason I have the money to build such a rig is because I've had to move back home, I plan on moving out next year for good this time And I probably won't have the money to upgrade the graphics card so I'm thinking going to a decent 1200p, the current one I have is very old, colour reproduction isn't great and there is considerable light bleed, so below are the ones I've picked out as possible candidates:

    My favorite brand Asus gets the top pick by me:
    http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PA248Q/
    Found it for £320

    Then in second place is iiyama as they are just darn reliable and relatively good value:
    http://www.iiyama.com/gb_en/products/prolite-x2485ws-1/
    Found it for £240

    And lastly, purely based on their extremely good feedback... Dell
    http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&sku=609020
    Found it for £200 (which is pretty good considering on the dell website it's over £300+

    Out of the 3 above, which one do you guys think is a better investment? Whichever wins the votes gets purchased on August 20th 2013!
     
  6. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Here's the one I have for £200 (plus customs and VAT). Same 8-bit PLS panel as in the Samsung S27A850 but less than half the price.
     
  7. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    Wow... Ok Ok, that is a seriously good deal, how good is the panel though? If you'd be willing to, are you able to give me a quick review of the screen?

    Everything I've read so far is that the bezel isn't well made but the screen itself is gorgeous!
     
  8. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Check out my post here (sorry the linking doesn't work for some reason):
    http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whatd-you-buy-yourself-today.180278/page-11

    The bezel and stand are fine on my one, although some people have complained of panel play (where the bezel doesn't line up with the pixels) and wobbly stands but that's the risk you take with a no-brand monitor. On the positive side you get a superb screen which has excellent colours out of the box and is overclockable!

    Probably better to create a new thread if you want any more specifics, there's also 2 very big threads over at OCN.
     
  9. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    Ok, fine, you guys win, 1440p it is, however, I really would prefer to get an Asus screen, I just trust it will be a quality screen, the price of the Qnix is tempting, but I would be pretty annoyed if it turned up with a defect as I plan on this screen lasting me quite some time.

    Asus PB278Q
    http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB278Q/

    If anyone is able to find this screen cheaper than £460 please let me know :)
     
  10. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,263   +541

    1440p screens are going to be expensive no matter what especially from asus, I love asus products, though in the monitor category I bought 3 Hanns-G 27" screens and have had nothing but good things to say about them. My friend has an older model 28 inch Hanns-G LCD that fell off a shelf screen forward and survived with a scratch on the bezel and nothing else. Sadly I could not find a monitor from them at 1440 resolution, it actually according to newegg at least, looks like the Asus 1440p 27 inch monitor is the cheapest at $599 us Dollars, so that looks like your best bet.
     
  11. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    The more I read into it actually the more I want a 1440p screen! and the Asus has got very good reviews across the board, I'm quite excited about it now, I've never really experienced myself personally, anything above 1920x1080, the pixel count is staggering, 2 million vs 3.6 million and the screen is an extra 3 inchs, plus I've always had TN panels, never properly experienced a proper IPS display, and I believe this one is a PLS panel which from what I've read is Samsung's answer to LG's IPS and actually fair's very well.

    I've also decided I'm probably going to SLI with an extra 780, damn you all! :p
     
     
  12. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,263   +541

    Your probably going to need it for bf4 at that resolution to keep constant 60fps. Based on the alpha of course (but then again there's almost no driver support for the game at the moment so it's definitely going to change). But with that setup, your going to see things you never saw before at 1080p. BF4 destruction is going to look sweet on that thing!
     
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  13. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 3,473   +622

    I'mma bust in here to offer this:

    Just because a no-name brand says it uses a 'Samsung' etc panel, doesn't mean you'll get anywhere near the quality of a full Samsung product.

    The panel itself is not going to be binned A-quality, so this is where the defects come from. Color, saturation, contrast, etc - these are all testing factors too.

    Then there's the important bit - the controller. Ultimately, poop in means poop out.


    You get what you pay for.
     
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  14. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,169   +176

    Another thing to consider with PLS and IPS panels for gaming is input lag and response times. I got the Asus because compared to other monitors in the same class, it had the lowest input lag.
     
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  15. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    Thanks guys, the asus is the one I'm going for all things considered, in gaming it does a very good job, in colour reproduction it does a very good job and the resolution is exactly what I'm after plus it has USB3 ports on and a stand that can actually be adjusted (never had an expensive enough screen to do that before) I think it's the best bet to put my money on!

    Just a shame I have to wait 2 months :(
     
  16. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,026   +913

    IPS screens have higher response times vs LCDs. That is the disadvantage, but the difference in color and saturation outweighs it.
     
  17. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    There are some IPS screens with high overdrive like the Eizo Forris 2333.
    If you check the prad.de review the input latency is .8 ms and pixel response with maximum overclock is only a few ms. It's faster than most TN.
     
  18. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    I think the Asus is 6ms as standard? Would I really notice a big difference between my current TN 2ms panel and the Asus's 6ms? I'm pretty sure LED TV's have much higher response times than most computer monitor's (16ms+) and I honestly don't notice any difference :/
     
  19. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Those are rated values and are in no way representative of their actual values. For Asus PB278Q has an overall latency of about 24ms. IMO anything under 50ms is no big deal they will all be fine.

    The Qnix qx2710 is uniquely the most capable monitor and is also the cheapest, so if I were you, that's what I'd get.

    Otherwise if you can find them where you are, nixeus 1440p can sometimes be found relatively cheaply at around $500 USD or the monoprice 1440p which is practically the same monitor.

    Of all these monitors, their image "quality" (calibration, color etc) is highly comparable, with minor differences that you probably don't care about, same with response time.

    I invite you to check the overclock.net thread about th qx2710. Along with that thread there is a database of hundreds of people who have purchased a qx2710 and their results (which are fairly positive).
     
  20. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    I know it sounds like I'm championing my Qnix (becuase I am :)) but I'm pretty certain it would have a lower input lag than any comparable Asus/Samsung monitor. Reason being it only has one DL-DVI input and none of the other fluff (USB ports, etc.)

    I agree with components such as PSUs, mobos, etc. that you get what you pay for but there are very few actual panel manufacturers and the Qnix has exactly the same panel as monitors twice the price. Also it's not like the branded monitors are free of dead pixels or backlight bleed either. At some point the cheaper monitor will be worth a shot and with a price difference of 100% I'd say it's worth the risk.

    Also I haven't even really mentioned overclocking yet, if you check the thread at OCN practially all of them will go past 100Hz.
     
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  21. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,026   +913

    LED does nothing to the response times. It is just the backlight.
     
  22. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    I know, I was only saying LED TV sets because I know the one in our house is advertised with a 16ms response time but as hellokitty said, it doesn't really matter what the advert says xD

    Anyway you'll all be happy to know (specially you slh28) I purchased the Qnix about 5 minutes ago from eBay as per the link slh28 kindly provided:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121099795512?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    Should arrive between Thursday - Monday
    Out of Curiosity, how long did it take for yours to arrive? I can assume you live in the UK?
     
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  23. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    I've heard 2 days is a common number on OCN. I hope you'll be more than pleased because that is also my favorite screen.
     
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  24. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,512   +314

    I'm rather excited now! Seriously, every single person who has purchased one of these have nothing but good things to say about them!

    It was cheap enough a friend was willing to lend me the money for 17 days (until payday) as I was worried these would disappear off eBay at such a steal of a price!
     
  25. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,026   +913

    Just tell your buddy the cost will be admiring the monitor xD.
     
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