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Utter lies. Republicans demanded the bill, got the bill, then voted against it because they do not want the problem solved during an election year. You don't get to complain any longer.

The fact that what used to be the Republican party has made letting Putin get away with murder policy is a whole different embarassment.
Pretty accurate.
And one additional thought that I had recently. Republicans wanted tighter border laws for a while. Democrats opposed. Maybe, some of the republicans really do not want Biden to pass border law now out of spite. I mean, they did not get to do it with obstacles from democrats. Why does Biden get to "save America" himself now, right? That is the punishment for refusing law changes all these years.
 
No one demanded anything, except for Joe Biden to do his job. It's called illegal immigration for a reason. There are already laws on the books against it. They simply need to be enforced.
Republicans got a redder than red firebreather in senator James Lankford to draft what they wanted in a bill, and then were surprised that Democrats simply agreed to implement everything they asked for.

So the Trump brownshirts had to shoot their own guy down. It was completely disgraceful. and there can be no more argument that Republicans actually want the border crisis solved. It's a bargaining chip and nothing else.
 
Pretty accurate.
And one additional thought that I had recently. Republicans wanted tighter border laws for a while. Democrats opposed. Maybe, some of the republicans really do not want Biden to pass border law now out of spite.
How can you ask 'maybe'? There isn't anyone on either side that doesn't understand that is exactly what is happening. They are desperate for the crisis to persist. After all, it's a useful distraction from the fact that the Republican party has nothing tangible to offer for actual working and middle class voters.
 
Is that why Joe Biden dropped Trump's sanctions on Russia, gave Putin back his gas pipeline to Europe, then went on live TV and green-lighted a "minor incursion" into Ukraine?


No one demanded anything, except for Joe Biden to do his job. It's called illegal immigration for a reason. There are already laws on the books against it. They simply need to be enforced.
Hey Endymio, Your trying to reason with this "beerfloat" individual who's been groomed. Don't bother.

Biden revoked all of the border executive orders. He has all of the power top re-instate them. We all know the real truth of this president. We do not need any more bills or spending.

Biden kills the wall and many other border control actions. Here you go.
 
Exactly. Biden stopped the construction of the border wall, Biden rescinded the catch and release process that Trump had initiated, etc. It's only now that Biden wants to do something about the border situation because even some of his base is getting annoyed with the crap that's happening. This is nothing more than Biden attempting to buy votes during an election year.

Biden needs to own up to the fact that his failed policies created this mess and if that means he is to be voted out, so be it. He screwed up, plain and simple, and he needs to pay for it by losing the election.
 
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Well that stupid wall had to be stopped of course. That's just a symbolic ineffective waste of money that only appeals to simpletons.

Most immigrants arrive by sea and plane, and through border passings. What actually needs to be fixed is asylum law, and not by executive order but by an actual act of Congress. But Trump of course never pulled that off even when he had both houses, because Republicans can't govern. Which is also why they simply can't take yes for an answer from Democrats. They're really just political hooligans, not that far removed from actual insurrectionists.

And when you see how terrible they are at this straightforward matter, imagine them being in charge again on things that are actually important, like health care, education and social security. Absolutely nothing was accomplished the last time the orange clown was in charge.
 
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Well that stupid wall had to be stopped of course. That's just a symbolic ineffective waste of money
So why did the Biden Administration recently reverse course and claim a border wall is essential?

"Oct 4, 2023: Biden admin. admits ‘immediate’ need for Texas border wall amid massive migrant surge....Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said Wednesday that the U.S. has an “acute and immediate need” to build border wall in southern Texas, and he issued an order waiving some of the country’s most iconic environmental protection laws to speed up construction...."


What actually needs to be fixed is asylum law
Asylum law is fine. Congress required the burden of proof for such claims to be upon the asylum seeker. Biden, however, passed an executive order allowing any claim from any individual from any country -- no matter how flimsy -- to be sufficient to allow them to be released into the country on their own recognizance. Oh, and he also allows those crossing illegally (which used to mean automatic rejection to claim asylum if they're caught.

There's a reason that illegal immigration has quadrupled under Biden.

As for the absurd notion that "most illegals arrive by sea and air", that's a lie:

NYT: "The 2022 fiscal year set a record of 2.2 million illegal border crossings. These numbers do not include crossings at official checkpoints...."

2023 is far worse. " In FY23, CBP recorded more than 2.4 million illegal crossings at the Southwest border and more than 3.2 million nationwide. "

These figures include ONLY those we catch. Not those we don't.
 
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So why did the Biden Administration recently reverse themself and claim a border wall is essential?

"Oct 4, 2023: Biden admin. admits ‘immediate’ need for Texas border wall amid massive migrant surge....Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said Wednesday that the U.S. has an “acute and immediate need” to build border wall in southern Texas, and he issued an order waiving some of the country’s most iconic environmental protection laws to speed up construction...."
Haha, no need to be coy because you already know exactly what happened there. The money for that stretch was appropriated by Congress before Biden took office. They refused to have it re-allocated, so the President had to follow Congress' instructions, despite reiterating that he does not believe the wall is an effective measure. You know, because that's what a normal executive is supposed to do. Maybe you should review civics 101 - Trump certainly does.

Asylum law is fine. Congress required the burden of proof for such claims to be upon the asylum seeker. Biden, however, passed an executive order allowing any claim from any individual from any country -- no matter how flimsy -- to be sufficient to allow them to be released into the country on their own recognizance. Oh, and he also allows those crossing illegally (which used to mean automatic rejection to claim asylum if they're caught.

There's a reason that illegal immigration has quadrupled under Biden.
Yes, there are several reasons in fact, and I'm not denying asylum policy is one of them, which is why it so desperately needs to be fixed properly. But the most important one by far is the record number of job openings that we now have. By all common measures, Biden's economy is soaring.

As for the absurd notion that "most illegals arrive by sea and air", that's a lie:

NYT: "The 2022 fiscal year set a record of 2.2 million illegal border crossings. These numbers do not include crossings at official checkpoints...."
They do, though. The biggest category of illegal immigrants over the last 10 years has consistently been visa overstayers, not the wetbacks of the right wing fever dreams. And I think you actually know this to be true. You're not RudyBob or TheRealSCDC after all.
 
Haha, no need to be coy because you already know exactly what happened there. The money for that stretch was appropriated by Congress before Biden took office. They refused to have it re-allocated, so the President had to follow Congress' instructions, despite reiterating that he does not believe the wall is an effective measure.
An excellent example of what George Orwell called "DoubleThink": the ability of a zealous adherent's ability to believe in absurd, even contradictory statements to show their loyalty to the cause. Congress didn't make Joe Biden stop wall construction:

Jan 20, 2021 (AP) "..Among the first 17 executive orders President Biden signed Wednesday evening was one hitting "pause" on construction of former President Donald Trump's border wall....Biden gave the Pentagon and Homeland Security departments up to a week to stop all border construction, and for the most part, the frantic wall-building Trump had unleashed in his last months in office had stopped by Thursday, The Associated Press reports."

Nor did Congress make the Biden Administration suddenly admit they were wrong, and that a border wall is needed after all.


The biggest category of illegal immigrants over the last 10 years has consistently been visa overstayers
Caught lying again:

"....total number of Suspected In-Country Overstays for FY 2022 [was] 706,952."


That compares to 3.2 million migrants caught attempting to cross the border illegally, and several million more *not* caught.

Oh and wait, it gets worse! Those "overstays" also now count those who crossed illegally, then claimed asylum, and then failed to appear in court to substantiate their claim.
 
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An excellent example of what George Orwell called "DoubleThink": the ability of a zealous adherent's ability to believe in absurd, even contradictory statements to show their loyalty to the cause. Congress didn't make Joe Biden stop wall construction:
Yeah, exactly. That's what I said. Congress insisted it be continued and he wanted it stopped. You are the one who is claiming Biden thinks a wall is needed. Reading comprehension?

Caught lying again:

"....total number of Suspected In-Country Overstays for FY 2022 [was] 706,952."


That compares to 3.2 million migrants caught attempting to cross the border illegally, and several million more *not* caught.

Oh and wait, it gets worse! Those "overstays" also now count those who crossed illegally, then claimed asylum, and then failed to appear in court to substantiate their claim.
I specifically mentioned the trend over 10 years, which is what policy makers should have been basing decisions on. But didn't - see the ill-conceived wall.

It doesn't matter though. Not really. Because you're not actually looking for a solution.

Once again here we have a right winger lamenting about how bad things are, and unprecedented, and yet somehow in the same breath refusing to support giving the President the authority to actually deal with the situation. The very authority that was requested by your own Republican senate negotiator. This is not a good faith argument. Solving this issue isn't really what you want. So what is the point?
 
Yeah, exactly. That's what I said. Congress insisted it be continued and he wanted it stopped. You are the one who is claiming Biden thinks a wall is needed. Reading comprehension?
Oops! New York Times, Oct 2023:
Why is Biden Building New Border Wall?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/06/us/border-wall-biden.html

NBC News: Oct 2023:
"...In a striking acknowledgment of the need to address the migrant influx at the southern border, the Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws to permit more border wall construction in southern Texas....
"

NBC News: (even before Biden's course reversal on the wall):

Oct 2022: PHOENIX — The Biden administration on Thursday authorized completion of the Trump-funded U.S.-Mexico border wall in an open area of southern Arizona ...."


I specifically mentioned the trend over 10 years,
The "trend over 10 years" stopped when Joe Biden took office. Now the vast majority of immigrants are crossing illegally by land, and all your comments that "they come by air and sea" and "most are just visa overstays" are proven misinformation.
 
Oops! New York Times, Oct 2023:
Why is Biden Building New Border Wall?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/06/us/border-wall-biden.html

NBC News: Oct 2023:
"...In a striking acknowledgment of the need to address the migrant influx at the southern border, the Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws to permit more border wall construction in southern Texas....
"

NBC News: (even before Biden's course reversal on the wall):

Oct 2022: PHOENIX — The Biden administration on Thursday authorized completion of the Trump-funded U.S.-Mexico border wall in an open area of southern Arizona ...."



The "trend over 10 years" stopped when Joe Biden took office. Now the vast majority of immigrants are crossing illegally by land, and all your comments that "they come by air and sea" and "most are just visa overstays" are proven misinformation.
Uh right. I guess you have been the land of alternative facts, too, when Biden wanted to do something and negotiated in good faith to do something but then your king orangutan buffoon ordered his serfs to reject Biden's negotiations so the king orangutan buffoon himself could fix it. Good luck with that. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣And you guys think you will be further ahead with the king orangutan buffoon. Talk about clueless. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Exactly. Biden stopped the construction of the border wall, Biden rescinded the catch and release process that Trump had initiated, etc.
:rolleyes:Catch and release. Yet another extremely effective Trump policy - in the land of alternative facts. Haven't you learned your lesson yet?
 
Pretty accurate.
And one additional thought that I had recently. Republicans wanted tighter border laws for a while. Democrats opposed. Maybe, some of the republicans really do not want Biden to pass border law now out of spite. I mean, they did not get to do it with obstacles from democrats. Why does Biden get to "save America" himself now, right? That is the punishment for refusing law changes all these years.
Hmmm. Let's see. Two whole years of complete "Republican" control - and it wasn't fixed. Ah yes. That's Biden's fault in the land of alternative facts. :rolleyes:
 
Is that why Joe Biden dropped Trump's sanctions on Russia, gave Putin back his gas pipeline to Europe, then went on live TV and green-lighted a "minor incursion" into Ukraine?
Wow! Talk about citing ancient history. A fossilized dinosaur turd, this one is.
 
The decisions are difficult because they are not addressing the problems while attempting to make it look like they are. Better go watch some more TV commercials
So you prefer doing absolutely nothing? Kinda what the GOP is doing right now hoping to win votes out of all of this.
Is that why Joe Biden dropped Trump's sanctions on Russia, gave Putin back his gas pipeline to Europe, then went on live TV and green-lighted a "minor incursion" into Ukraine?


No one demanded anything, except for Joe Biden to do his job. It's called illegal immigration for a reason. There are already laws on the books against it. They simply need to be enforced.
No, he didn't "drop" the sanctions, no he didn't give his "pipelines" back. and it is a known fact that Trump would have just let Ukraine fall (he said so himself).

"No one demanded anything, except for Joe Biden to do his job." - tell that to the GOP which seems hell bent on letting illegals in the country just to f the dems over in the elections.
 
No, [Biden] didn't "drop" the sanctions, no he didn't give his "pipelines" back.
The facts contradict you:

BBC: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline
The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project....Critics say the pipeline is a major geopolitical prize for the Kremlin...."

( WE) "...KYIV, Ukraine — President Joe Biden’s cancellation of Trump-era sanctions meant to halt the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a blow to the Ukrainian economy...The Russian pipeline that would transport gas through the Baltic Sea to Germany would displace older Ukrainian pipelines ..."

... it is a known fact that Trump would have just let Ukraine fall
Russia would have never invaded in the first place. Groups like Cato were predicting a full year before the invasion that Biden's policies would lead to all-out war with Russia. The Biden Administration demanded Nato treat Ukraine as a member in all but name only; held Nato 'training exercises' in Ukraine only a few miles from the Russian border; wrote a Nato MAP (membership plan) for Ukraine; and stationed a brigade of US military troops in Ukraine as "trainers and advisors". All this despite past promises that Nato would not expand eastward, and ever-escalating Russian demands for talks on the issue.

When Biden sent Kamala Harris to the European Security Conference to state that Ukraine joining Nato was "non negotiable" and "in Ukraine's hands" -- Russia invaded a few days later.
 
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Which world are you living in?
BBC: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline
The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project....Critics say the pipeline is a major geopolitical prize for the Kremlin...."

( WE) "...KYIV, Ukraine — President Joe Biden’s cancellation of Trump-era sanctions meant to halt the completion of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a blow to the Ukrainian economy...The Russian pipeline that would transport gas through the Baltic Sea to Germany would displace older Ukrainian pipelines ..."


Russia would have never invaded in the first place. Groups like Cato were predicting a full year before the invasion that Biden's policies would lead to all-out war with Russia. The Biden Administration demanded Nato treat Ukraine as a member in all but name only; held Nato 'training exercises' in Ukraine only a few miles from the Russian border; wrote a Nato MAP (membership plan) for Ukraine; and stationed a brigade of US military troops in Ukraine as "trainers and advisors". All this despite past promises that Nato would not expand eastward, and ever-escalating Russian demands for talks on the issue.

When Biden sent Kamala Harris to the European Security Conference to state that Ukraine joining Nato was "non negotiable" and "in Ukraine's hands" -- Russia invaded a few days later.
Ah, got it, that sanction is what you were talking about. The pipeline would have been built regardless and the sanction was removed to please Germany, not Russia. Biden took advantage of that to mend broken relationships in europe, broken because of Trump.

~Foreign Minister Heiko Maas told reporters: "It's an expression of the fact that Germany is an important partner for the US, one that it can count on in the future."~

"Russia would have never invaded in the first place." - pffff hahahahahaha. Keep deluding yourself believing that they would not have attacked when it was Trump that effectively destroyed any semblance of trust in the US in eastern europe after he blocked support for Ukraine and blackmailed its president. I even remember precisely when support for pro-russia parties started to grow in Europe because of what Trump did. Betraying US allies and disappointing the whole world is all he could do as president.

It has nothing to do with NATO. It's just a convenient excuse they used, just like with the whole "nazi" thing. Did you think russia was sending weapons and fighters in ukraine to the pro-russia militia just to annoy them? Obviously not, this was planned over the course of many years.
 
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Ah, got it, that sanction is what you were talking about. The pipeline would have been built regardless
So your argument is, that since Russia would have "gotten around sanctions" anyway, just lift them all? Biden lifting those sanctions allowed construction to resume and emboldened Russia, almost as much as when Biden went on live TV and green-lighted a "minor incursion" into Ukraine.

s Trump that effectively destroyed any semblance of trust in the US in eastern europe after he blocked support for Ukraine and blackmailed its president.
Luckily Trump did neither. While Biden advised Obama to send Ukraine nothing but blankets and helmets, Trump was the first US President to approve actual weapons. And the "blackmail" was Trump asking Ukraine to investigate what we now know was an actual crime -- Joe's son being paid millions of dollars to shield Burisma from prosecution. The emails and text messages of Hunter's and Burisma's founder Mykola Zlochevsky make that abudantly clear.
 
That's funny as hell. Yet allowing a river of illegals flow into our country, from everywhere. Most are young fighting age males. Just look at how well they are dressed as well.

Well every capitalism nation need an army of jobless people to keep capitalism on track...
But back to the real reason for cyber USA secutiry measures... IMHO always...

First Huawei, well can't remember the second now... But cyber security seems like just the present escape goat and "civil" casualty of the trade war...
Trump started with iron (or was it steel? can't remember...) saying that it would be to protect USA economy... It hurt bussiness even on USA, these metal tariffs made production costs for US manufacturers higher:

https://www.piie.com/blogs/trade-an...rope-remove-trumps-steel-and-aluminum-tariffs

Also USA got another way to hit China, making it harder for China to get better chip making tech, slowing China tech development and production... and that hurts USA tech industry too but the way USA is get around this is by getting fabs on it's territory.

Then USA openned other trade war front, picking on China technology over the disquise of cyber security.
USA hit Huawei, the best 5G infra supplier and it's smartphone bussiness because it would be weird to go after just it's 5G infra.

Then it even forged fakenews about China spying other countries planting "bugs" on hardware... Please, really?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Now they are going for China EVs because it hurts USA EVs industry... It's not about cyber security, it's about safeguarding USA industry.

We don't need China spying USA citizens, USA is the big brother of the entire world, and (USA) got not only home made cyber security and offensive capabilities R&D, it also offshore it's cyber R&D to Israel:

https://www.aipac.org/resources/the...cooperation-enhancement-act-t7f8e-etp8p-ce7n8

It's about war, just new domains of war. USA supremacy is fed by war, just as the Roman empire was sustained by expansion wars till it collapsed because it couldn't keep expanding. As the USA can't expand anymore it's frontiers it's answer is to stay on top of the trade war against China.

Talking on side effects that's why USA needs to stand for Israel no matter what, it needs to defend it's pet country in every adversity even if it needs some wrist slap for going too far on any matter. If a country that's not useful for USA get into a war, USA won't move a finger. If there's a country that hurts USA interests, USA will deliver it some good old "democracy". If it's an ally it's just need some "bad boy, don't do that again".

If Palestin were rainning fire over Israel, USA would be nuking Palestine like Zeus throwing thunders.

USA conflict handling is war, no matter the front.
 
Illegal border crossings 2020: 409,000.
Illegal border crossings 2023: 3,250,000

Oops!


Eh? The actions I cited were from Biden's first year in office. Two years ago is "ancient history"?
And so 2020 and prior illegal border crossings did not count? Yes? Humpty Trumpty is the one who said a wall was needed yet did little more than put up Renyolds Aluminum Wrap across the border and thought it would stop illegal border crossings. Laughable. OPPPPsies! Humpty Trumpty did jack, and claimed he solved the problem. So typical of Humpty Trumpty just like his ineffective Chinese tariffs that US Citizens were paying. At least Biden has the Chinese sanctions right - its actually hurting the Chinese economy. Instead, some of those here are studying fossilized dinosaur crap. :rolleyes:

Who is Biden supporting in the Ukraine conflict now? And who is Trump saying he will support? OPPPPS again!

And you righties think that your dear constitution will still be in place if Humpty Trumpty is re-elected when he has said that he will suspend the constitution? Opppsies yet again!
 
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So your argument is, that since Russia would have "gotten around sanctions" anyway, just lift them all? Biden lifting those sanctions allowed construction to resume and emboldened Russia, almost as much as when Biden went on live TV and green-lighted a "minor incursion" into Ukraine.


Luckily Trump did neither. While Biden advised Obama to send Ukraine nothing but blankets and helmets, Trump was the first US President to approve actual weapons. And the "blackmail" was Trump asking Ukraine to investigate what we now know was an actual crime -- Joe's son being paid millions of dollars to shield Burisma from prosecution. The emails and text messages of Hunter's and Burisma's founder Mykola Zlochevsky make that abudantly clear.
Actual crime? 🤣 Yes, just like all the "evidence" that the GOP claims to have on Joe Biden - that's why they have impeached him. Who's witch hunting who? And I'm Mary Poppins - to borrow the phrase from Kojak.

I just don't get why the conservatruds want a dictator in power.
 
So you prefer doing absolutely nothing? Kinda what the GOP is doing right now hoping to win votes out of all of this.

No, he didn't "drop" the sanctions, no he didn't give his "pipelines" back. and it is a known fact that Trump would have just let Ukraine fall (he said so himself).

"No one demanded anything, except for Joe Biden to do his job." - tell that to the GOP which seems hell bent on letting illegals in the country just to f the dems over in the elections.
Fortunately, I think enough people see the BS that the GOP is spewing. I think their "election strategy" will backfire on them.
 
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