Bill Gates on Windows 8: "It's an absolutely critical product (for the future of the company)"

By Julio Franco
Oct 22, 2012
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  1. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,765   +1,427

    No it doesn't!! The Start Menu wouldn't be much of a menu for starting applications, if it didn't include every app that was installed. You seem to be voicing your opinion against an opinion. My opinion is this, the only way Microsoft could get Windows to run on a tablet was to dumb it down. Think about all the features that had to be removed, so Windows could function on a machine that barely has the performance of a P4 made 10 years ago.
  2. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TechSpot Booster Posts: 310   +62

    Lol nothing wrong with voicing opinions, even if they contradict other opinions :p I think that of course the tablet version is going to be dumbed down, its a tablet. That being said, the desktop version so far has retained all of windows 7's functions, added more, and improved on the windows 7 functions. The only thing I was worried about was the interface that's getting all this flack, but I actually learned it almost immediately.

    For the start menu, I'm not sure what the max is you can have displayed on windows 7, but I've never seen more than about 8-12 programs on it. Then you can type or search through it to find specific programs not on there. In windows 8, you have the whole screen to fit commonly used programs on it. Then you can type or search through it to find specific programs just like before. Then there are always apps that can display commonly searched for information just from that screen. That means it does everything the start menu did, but with more programs and more useful information.
  3. avoidz

    avoidz TechSpot Maniac Posts: 454   +54

    If you mean how many you can pin to the Windows 7 Start Menu, it's about 24 program shortcuts.
  4. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TechSpot Booster Posts: 310   +62

    Sure lets go with 24
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,765   +1,427

    The Start Menu is not limited to only the pinned items, if it were I could sympathize with your statement of Metro displaying more apps. There is a section called "All Programs", which implies exactly what it says.
  6. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TechSpot Booster Posts: 310   +62

    Metro has an all apps option (includes the regular programs too). It shows all of them in a grid format too so you can see more apps at once.
  7. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,765   +1,427

    Ahh, much like desktop but in your defense desktop doesn't scroll. But then they could have made it where desktop scrolled, but they didn't. Instead we are left with 4-bit color squares, which in my eyes is a 15 year downgrade from the Start Menu. I can understand the need in the Start Screen and the general layout. What I don't understand is why those of us with modern desktop PC's must downgrade in OS capabilities just so the same OS can be used on a P4 equivalent tablet. I understand the need in disabling features so an OS can run on a tablet. I get that part of the game, what I don't get is keeping those features disabled and not allowing them as options for more capable machines.
  8. The older I get the harder it is to have fine motor movement for getsures. Car accidents, sports accidents, bad ergonomic habits, and learned muscle movements have taken the toll on my ability to "gesture with finesse".
    These devices will not reach the older population that have slight tremors, and people with disabilities or injuries.


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