BSODs Win7 memory management error

[xweel]

hello every1..ive read the sticky on this forum i didnt understand some stuff but i thought i'd post the dump thingy but then i cldnt find it in c:windows/minidump

i installed new version of windows and the bsod happened once tell now(1st day)
but b4 i insalled the win7 i kept getting the page in nonpaged area somthin like tht i changed moved the ram stick another spot then i kept getting the memory_managment error....but after i reinstalled win 7 i got this bsod once im sure ill get it again..plz help
spec: windows 7 home prem 64bit

8gb ram
inter core i7-2600 cpu @ 3.40GHz 3.70GHz
ati readon HD 2gb 6950

if u need anything more plz tell me

 

[Mark56]

Hi, this sounds like it is going to be a problem with your RAM. But first, if you are having BSOD's and they are not being saved in C:\Windows\minidump then please follow this to check the settings are set to save the minidumps.

Click on Start > Control Panel > System > Advanced System Settings (left pane) > Advanced tab > Settings button for Startup and Recovery. In the System Failure box make these settings.

Check > Write an event to the system log.

Check > Automatically restart.

Select > 'Complete or Kernel Memory Dump' in the Write debugging information box.

Small Dump Directory should read %SystemRoot%\Minidump.

At the bottom of the box make sure "Overwrite any existing file" is not checked.

Then go back to the Write debugging information box and set it to "Small memory dump".

Hit OK, OK again and close the System box.

Then follow this guide to test your memory. Please post any future BSOD minidump files.

http://www.memtest.org/

You need to scroll down the page until you see the three blue screenshots. Just below is the list of downloads for Memtest86+ V4.20. Click on Download - Pre-Compiled Bootable ISO (.zip)and save to your desktop, When the download is complete right click the file and select Extract Here and burn the image to a CD. In windows 7 right click the extracted file, select Open With, then select Windows Disc Image Burning Tool then follow the prompts. For all other versions of windows (if you do not have an ISO burner) download this free software. http://www.isoimageburner.com/

Boot the PC into the Bios setup and set the CD/DVD drive to 1st in the boot sequence. Insert the disk in the drive then reboot and the disc will load into dos. Leave the test to run through at least 8 cycles.

The memtest will not be 100% accurate but should easily detect any major faults.

Are you now using Windows 7 64bit? The 32bit version will not be using all the RAM you have.

 

[xweel]

thanks..i will

ya ofc i knew the 32 bit cant use more then 3.5 gb ram

i have the 64bit

 

[xweel]

Ok tell now I got 4 bsods

2 of em were memory managment but then I did the memtest and it rly took a long time and I got like 5000 errors and 2 passes..I didnt understand wht to report bout it but then my bro needed the pc urgently so I had to close it now I cant do it again since I cant wait all tht time again..anyways after tht I figuered it was the ram so I changed the moved the rams and now I got another bsod...same as the 1 b4 I reinstalled win7
page fault in nonpaged area and still no minidump directory I did the above steps..but I have the windows.old folder and it has the dump folder and since it was the same error I figured it wld be the same so I posted it here

edit: ok I figured why I cldnt get the dump files in the settings u mentioned the dump diretory read %SystemRoot%\memory.dmp
k I js changed it but im gonna post the memory.dmp file it might help

edit: ok now I cant find the memory.dmp..it used to be in the windows folder ..now it isnt. ill js wait for another bsod

 

[Mark56]

This is the list of possible causes for that minidump, error code 24.
Disk corruption, insufficient physical memory, Device driver, Indexing, Resident antivirus, backup, defrag programs, Disk/Drive failing/failure


Memtest needs to be run for at least 8 passes which will take a long time, ideally you should set it to run overnight and then look at the results in the morning. You clearly have faulty memory from the result you have. It is not all that clear from your description what you have done with your RAM sticks.:

i figuered it was the ram so i changed the moved the rams and now i got another bsod

Have you replaced any of the sticks or just moved them into different slots?

To determine which stick is causing the errors you should run Memtest on one stick at a time by removing all the others. As soon as an error shows in the test, you can be sure that particular stick is faulty.

I would suggest running the manufacturer's diagnostics on the hard drive as that is also a likely cause for the BSOD.

Identify the make of your hard drive and then use one of the links below to get the manufacturers diagnostic for ISO CD. Burn the image file to a CD, boot the PC with the disc in the drive and run the diagnostics. You first need to set the CD drive to 1st in the boot order in the Bios setup.

If you do not have an image burner use this free software to make the CD.

http://www.isoimageburner.com/



ExcelStor: http://www.excelstor.com/eng/support.php?sub_id=3

Hitachi/IBM: http://www.hitachigst.com/support/downloads/

Samsung: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/support/downloads/support_in_es.html

Seagate, Maxtor & Quantum:http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads

Western Digital:http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?lang=en

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Toshiba Fujitsu: http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=SoftwareUtilities#diagnostic

If you have a Toshiba hard drive I would suggest the use of the diagnostics from the Seagate link as this will work on all makes of drive and on any OS.

 

[xweel]

ok im gonna try tht..i didnt replace any ram stick i js moved them to a different slot and now i did tht again tell now no bsod

tht minidump was from the prev windows so if i get another bsod now ill post the minidump file and im gonna run the memtest and the hard drive test later 2night


edit: i remembered somthing b4 i reinstalled windows there was somthin different from the bsod im getting now...something like

initiating disk crash dump 100% ..somthing like tht then i restart the pc

but now there is no the " % " thingy only intitiating crash dump..w,e it is
i js got another bsod and i noticed it... still no minidump..thought it might be related to the missing dump files ;P

 

[Mark56]

It is possible that your RAM had a bad contact so reseating them may have fixed it. It is also possible that one of the RAM slots is faulty. When you have had 8 clear passes on one of the sticks run the test again on the same stick with it in the other slot (the one where it was when the errors showed).

 

[xweel]

i just got a " memory managment " bsod ...somtimes i get the page fault in non paged area and sometimes the memory managment ...r they related?


edit: almost all the time i get this error when my bro is playing his games........ i only got it once while watchin a movie

 

[Mark56]

Those errors can both relate to faulty RAM.

Running the tests on seperate sticks should find the culprit.

It is also significant that the errors occur when playing games as this puts the RAM under pressure.

Please post the minidumps if you can find them.

 

[xweel]

ok i will

thanks

 

[xweel]

ok so i got the faulty ram

i have 2 slot sets and each set has 2 slots for ram and i was moving each ram withen the same set and i used to get the " page fault in non paged area " then i moved 1 ram to a different slot set so i got " memory management " error so i figured the ram tht i moved was the damaged 1 so i removed it now i have only 4gb ram in my pc and no bsod for quite a long time.....wht can i do with the damaged ram stick?? can i fix it or i shld buy a new 1?

ill run the memtest when i have to sleep...i had a busy day i only slept for 3hrs so there was no time to run it ....

 

[Mark56]

Test the stick you suspect as faulty with memtest with only that stick fitted in the PC, if it fails you cannot repair it, it will need to be replaced.