Building First Custom Computer

By TheJediSlayer
May 30, 2008
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  1. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,257   +110

    oh.....you already ordered?

    cuz newegg has a $15 promo code on the corsair powersupply... :(

    YOUR DEAD WRONG!!!
    The next generation Nvida cards are comming out this month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ATI is coming out with its HD4000 series right aftER!!!

    ALSO the 9800Gx2 is $480 something at newegg now!!!!!!

    sorry i was so late...ive been busy. And lazy.
  2. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    To tell you the truth as well, I'm never comfortable buying the very top end parts, since the prices for these drop real fast, sometimes on a week by week basis.

    And the performance usually is just a fraction of the trailing card, but I suppose in this case, it is a fair bit, which is why I didn't mention a thing.

    Personally tho, I would've gone with the 9800Gtx, but thats more for a funding reason.
  3. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    I still plan to go with the GFX card you guy's suggested originally. I feel that's the best one to go with for today's games.
  4. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Well, its still a solid card.

    But I hope you see how important it is to set a budget.... Its also equally important to stick to it though. Its very easy to go overboard and get the very top end stuff: they hardly ever get a bad review.

    Of course, if its still too expensive, you can drop down that graphics card, or RAM as mentioned. These will have an effect on your games, but trust me, it isn't devastating.

    If you're not getting the PC now, check back, because chances are, things have changed.
  5. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    I have yet to order the GFX card, etc. The only things I've ordered so far are the Aztec case and the monitor itself. I'm waiting till I get more money together before buying the rest, and, like you suggested, it may be a good idea to wait and see if prices drop down any further while I'm still collecting the dough. Thanks though. Good advice.
  6. mopar man

    mopar man TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,492

    Its an aNtec, not Aztec ;)

    Anyway, nice build, hope it works out for you.
  7. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    I have another question that I would like to ask you guys. I realize that there are multiple factors that decide how fast a computer goes. I.e. CPU, RAM, etc. Anyways, I just had a question to ask about rather or not it would be a good idea to buy another set of 2X2 GB worth of RAM for my computer? Bear in mind that the current computer specs above are the ones that I am currently referring to. I realize that four gigabytes of RAM already is a lot of RAM and I know that buying more RAM does not always mean that you will end up with a faster system in the end; however, I was curious to know as to rather or not buying another 2x2 GB of RAM was worth it for my computer? I ask this because I figure I am going to be running some pretty high end games that are going to require a lot from the system.
    These are the current RAM chips I am using: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

    Once again, thanks for your time.
    Tyler
  8. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,279   +181

    You will not need another 4GB of RAM. Should there be some far future game that requires 8GB of RAM, you can buy more then but that won't be happening anytime soon.
  9. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,277   +22

    I agree with mailpup, 2GB is plenty right now for everything IMO. But keep in mind that if you're looking to upgrade to 4GB or more, buy a 64-bit OS.
  10. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    2GB is plenty.

    4GB is overkill IMO, since you would have trouble actually using it all... you'd need a 64bit OS to even try using it....

    But since it doesn't make much difference to overall cost, why not.
  11. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    Well, I'm already going to use 2x2 GB RAM chips... So, is this going to be a problem?
  12. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Depends on the motherboard and Windows. I can no longer see your board online. Some will not boot with more than 3.5 GB with Windows XP, and some will boot with 4 GB, but only use 3.5 GB. With Windows XP 64, all of the memory works. Perhaps that information will be defined on the motherboard manufacturer's web site.
  13. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    The motherboard I am buying uses up to 8 GB of RAM
     
  14. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,277   +22

    The amount of RAM reported will vary from system to system, since 32-bit Windows OSes can recognize a maximum of 4GB of memory (barring the HDDs) in total, which includes VRAM as well. So for your system, it'd only use 3GB of your 4GB of RAM, the rest going to "waste". That is why you should get a 64-bit OS, so you can actually use all your RAM.
  15. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Then look at the Microsoft documentation for Windows XP at www.microsoft.com. It is my understanding that Windows XP will not access more, but I could be wrong. You might also look at the documentation that is available for the motherboard. Or you may have to use Windows XP 64.
    I will defer to the experts on this forum as to what is possible.
    I
  16. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    I don't mean to make this sound like a dull, retarded question; however, if I were to get a 64-bit XP version, would that make any 32 bit or 16 bit applications obsolete for it, or would everything still be the same, just that I could handle 64-bit support now?

    ( By the way Rage_3K_Moiz, the monitor showed up... Its huge! )
  17. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,277   +22

    Some applications have 64-bit versions specifically built for a 64-bit OS, so you'd need those versions of those specific apps. Other 32-bit apps and games will work fine.
  18. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    Alright, I tried a little online web searching for Windows XP 64 Bit (Home, Pro, etc) and couldn't find any that were not OEM based CD's, etc. Does that really matter that they're OEM, or should I continue to hope to find a Windows XP 64 Bit without OEM on the labels? Thanks.

    EDIT:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378
  19. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Not much. The Full Version is nearly double the price, which is why nobody carries it. The OEM's only limitation is in Repair and Restore functions... and multiuse. I don't know if they have a Windows XP 64 Professional version... haven't seen one, but if they do, that would be worth the extra $40
  20. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,277   +22

    I don't know if it's legit or not, but I found a VLK copy of XP Professional for very cheap here. Is it the license only or is it the full package including the OS? I'll leave it to the more experienced to judge.
  21. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TechSpot Maniac Posts: 592

    Yeah, it's definitely a software Licence. I think I've seen XP 64-bit OEM. It was in a generic envelope thing just like in the link from Jedislayer.
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,012   +715

    That's a really bizarre price. Would you need a pre-existing commercial license to be able to activate it?

    Here's XP Pro 64 Bit OEM at Newegg; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378 They're claiming it's in stock, but methinks you better hurry.
  23. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    Well, I'm re-thinking my position on rather or not to buy the XP 64-Bit OS because I don't know rather or not it's really going to be worth it, just so that I can tap into some extra RAM power. When I say not worth it, I mean the part where applications won't work with it, etc, and I just figure that it's not worth the hassle of having some programs work and some not working so well or altogether.

    This leaves me with two options now, and I was hoping for some advice on what I should do.

    A - Buy the 64-Bit XP and only use it for when I play games while having regular XP loaded onto the HDD, too, for general computer use, etc. So, basically what I mean to say is that I would be dual booting XP 64-Bit and regular XP 32-Bit (If possible.)

    B - Don't bother with the hassle and stick with XP 32-Bit and don't concern myself with extra memory that I won't generally use much.
  24. TheJediSlayer

    TheJediSlayer Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 182

    Hey guys,

    I'm about to buy one of the last two parts of the computer that we were discussing before on here, and I just wanted to make sure that the link below is the correct graphics card because I'm getting pretty jittery with the idea of spending the money and finding out its the wrong one. Ha ha. :S
  25. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,279   +181

    You are jittery. You forgot to put in the "link below." :)


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