Ok, I am helping a friend over the phone and am having trouble identifying why they cannot acquire DNS or even ping the gateway, The first laptop connects without fail to the wireless signal where the second laptop is able to see the signal and acquires and ip address of 10.0.1.4 with a gateway of 10.0.1.1 but we are unable to ping the gateway. I turned off all security features in the modem and laptops that I could think of. it is as simple as an access point right now. Is there something I may be missing that needs to be disabled or enabled? I have verified that there are no static IP's set and that all is set to obtain automatically. when I do an ipconfig /release then renew, it reads that it cannot be renewed while it has its media disconnected leading me to believe that the wireless was turned off which it is not. It is associated to the SSID but with limited connectivity..how does it pull an IP and not able to ping the gateway? Security is the only thing I can think of... any ideas? sorry for the limited information as I am not sitting in from of the computers. it is 2.4ghz, channels - auto, encryption - open. thanks for the help.