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Computer build assistance

By evilsmith
Apr 25, 2010
  1. Hi I need some help building a computer and I was wondering if the community here could assist me in building a new computer :).

    -What are you going to use the PC for?
    This computer is going to be used for general browsing the internet (like Youtube) and some gaming (a 3D game like WoW)

    -How much is your budget?
    My budget is around $600 or less.

    -Where are you located? (a.k.a. fill out your profile)
    In profile.

    -Are you willing to buy online?
    I've bought online before from Newegg and Tigerdirect. I'm trying not to buy from too many different websites and hope to stick with Newegg and Tigerdirect if possible. (Just found out Tigerdirect has no tax charge or shipping charge ._. )

    -Are you going to re-use any parts from an earlier build?
    No. I don't intend to re-use any parts.

    -Do you need other peripherals like a monitor, keyboard and mouse, among others?
    I do need a monitor and input devices such as keyboard mouse and speakers. I don't need anything fancy though.

    -Have you already bought any parts?
    No I haven't bought any parts yet I hope to get the opinion of you guys first.

    -Do you have an Operating System (OS)?
    I do already have an OS System.

    I was thinking of following the guide from Techspot http://www.techspot.com/guides/buying/page2.html . Should I just follow the guide and add a GPU, a different Optical Drive, and perhaps invest in a better power supply because last time I got a 480W PSU and I had to downgrade on my GPU because my PSU couldn't handle a better one. Also perhaps different RAM because the one on the guide are a little bit on the expensive side as of now. I wouldn't mind following other build ideas if they're around my budget. Anyways thanks in advance.
     
  2. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,167   +37

    Our own red1776 put together a very nice guide here for building a budget gaminging system. He really knows what he is talking about from years of experience and lends his expertise just about every day at TechSpot.

    Link: http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic133075.html It will be a good addition to Tom's guide

    You certainly posted your need in the right forum. Give it a full day and you'll certainly receive excellent advice from several people.

    By the way, what is your OS?
     
  3. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Thanks for the quick response. I have all 3 OS systems XP,Vista, and Win7. Although I prefer XP or Windows 7 over Vista.
     
  4. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,167   +37

    Is 7 64-bit?
     
  5. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

  6. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Does the $600 budget include the cost of a monitor and other peripherals?
     
  7. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Route: All my OS are 32-bit
    hellokitty[hk]: Thanks for the suggestion.
    Ritwik7:Originally I wanted it to cover the $600 budget but it doesn't have to hopefully it'd still be around high 600 or maybe low 700s.

    So adding it all up as of now without monitor/input devices/optical drive the total is $530 including tax and shipping. (I imputed everything on the guide into Newegg except those mentioned before. I've also added the GPU that hello recommended)

    As of now, I'm still looking for an optical drive, and still looking for alternative RAM (less expensive) and I don't mind changing the PSU or downgrading on the GPU because the games that are going to be played isn't that graphically intense. Monitor and input devices and I'll just browse around Newegg/Tigerdirect and see whats cheap.
    Thanks again for the quick replies.
     
  8. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    There isn't much cheaper RAM than $85.
     
  9. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    I guess RAM is getting more expensive now because last year I bought 4GBs of RAM for $43 and now its $93.
     
  10. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

  11. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Meh I like corsair 400w.
    That doesn't include case...just as a note.
     
     
  12. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    @Ritwiik7
    Would you recommend me getting a
    AMD Phenom II X2 550 Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Model HDX550WFGMBOX
    and a
    XFX HD-477A-YDFC Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card instead of the ones you recommended.

    Also I just used the case recommended in the guide and added a LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM and the total is $597.88 including tax and shipping. Which I'm ready to buy if you guys think it'd be a good idea.
     
  13. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Its practically the same processor, give or take a couple dollars and a few hundred mhz.
     
  14. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    Hi evil,
    The 4770 sits between the 4830 and the 4850 performance wise, and the x2 550 and x2 550 both will handle easily what you use your machine for. Should you get into some more intense gaming you will have the GFX horsepower to do it.Best of luck with the build :)
     
  15. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Thanks for all the advice everyone and I'll look into buying it tonight or tomorrow.
     
  16. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Hi evilsmith.

    Like HK said both the processors are basically the same. So if you find the 550 BE then buy it. I'm recommending a Black Edition as it can OC really well.

    As for the GPU, the XFX HD 4770 is a good buy. However, it will not match the performance of the HD 5750 (unless overclocked).
     
  17. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Oh yeah, I would consider the 5750 over the 4770...
     
  18. JordanGBR

    JordanGBR TS Rookie Posts: 22

    Nvidia 6600GT is the minimum - will run fine on low settings on WoW, 8800GT should handle crowded areas with decent high settings, there isn't much price different either.

    450 watt PSU, comes with a decent case, I had this one, very spacious:
    http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/info_1604071.html

    You want 1GB RAM+ DDR2 will do. Kingmax 512mbx2 533MHz should be fine.

    This motherboard is good too for what you need, compatible with lots of processors:
    http://www.google.co.uk/products/ca...ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBgQ8wIwAg#ps-sellers

    This processor should do fine:
    http://www.google.co.uk/products/ca...L9FpzQ2ATn2dX3CA&sa=title&ved=0CAcQ8wIwADgA#p.
     
  19. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Well thanks for all the post but I think as of now I'll look into Tigerdirect a little more before I purchase the parts since I just found out they have no tax and shipping for California and under 25lbs. Probably should of checked it out earlier ): . But I still appreciate all the advice and help.
     
  20. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    This is ridiculous, the 6600gt is a terrible card in comparison to the 5750 and the rest of the parts sound like something you'd buy a year+ ago!
     
  21. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    K sorry for not posting in awhile but I have basically tried to look for all the similar parts in Tigerdirect (No tax/shipping), sorry for saying Newegg before and wasting some of your guys time >>.
    Heres what I got so far.
    Mobo:Biostar A785GE Motherboard - AMD 785G, Socket AM2+, MicroATX, PCIe, USB 2.0 - $69.99

    Processor: A79-1550 ::AMD HDX550WFGMBOX Phenom II X2 550 Dual Core Processor - 3.10GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s), Retail CPU w/ Fan(0.2 lbs) -$94.99

    Memory:K25-4026 ::Kingston 2048MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz Memory(0.2 lbs) x2 ($59.99 each) -Total: $119.98

    Video card:P450-4772 ::XFX HD477AYDFC Radeon HD 4770 Video Card - 512MB DDR5, PCI Express 2.0, CrossFireX Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support(1.8 lbs) -$104.99

    Monitor: Not part of my $600 budget so no worries here.

    Storage Drive: Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 500GB, 7200rpm, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM -$49.99

    Optical Drive: L12-1340 OEM ::Lite-On IHDP118-04 Internal DVD Drive - DVD-ROM 18x, CD-ROM 48x, IDE (OEM)(1.6 lbs) -$18.99

    Power Supply: A107-1117 ::Apevia Java 500-Watt Power Supply - SATA-Ready, 120mm Fan (Black)(3.65 lbs) -$39.99

    Case: G452-8010 ::Gigabyte X2 ATX Mid Tower Case - BPD, No PSU, MicroATX, 2 x USB 2.0, 7x 3.5 Drive Bays, 4x 5.25 Drive Bays(14.65 lbs) -$39.99

    Input devices: No worries here as of now either.

    Final Total: $538.91 with $63 Dollars of rebate available.

    Buying from Tigerdirect saves me a lot of money compared to Newegg. Everything looks alright to me ( which doesn't mean much) and I want to buy the parts by end of Sunday latest. Just wanted to get some advice before my purchase any changes I should do or make before I purchase. Anyways Thanks in advance and sorry bout before.
     
  22. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,167   +37

    Love the cpu.

    I would definitely add some more $ and get a reliable power supply with an excellent reputation.

    For information purposes this model is made by one of the top psu makers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

    I checked out Tiger Direct's psu offerings in 500 watt models and they leave something to be desired. The Enermax and Silverstone Strider are the only two I would consider.
     
  23. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    I would use the corsair 400w. That ram is really expensive, but I guess its sort of outdated if you can't find anything cheaper.
     
  24. evilsmith

    evilsmith TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 84

    Well the ram has a rebate of $20 each that's why I considered them. I'll look into the PSU and perhaps other ram. But I'm assumin everything else seems good then :D.
     
  25. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,167   +37

    HK's suggestion (HK always has solid advice) of Corsair is an excellent choice because Corsair power supplies are of high quality though I personally would want a little more power but that is my perogative.

    As for rebates, don't base your final cost on them because rebates are often a major FAIL.

    Take a look at these offerings for DDR2 667 and they are without rebates and very little cost for shipping: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...052308477 1052408745&name=DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) and they are less than what you'll pay even after the rebate.

    G.Skill, Crucial, Corsair and Kingston are all Tier 1 memory makers.
     
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