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Computer build for gaming

  1. Hi I am just wondering if these specs are compatible and are decent for the budget I have. I have a budget of about 1500 or 1000 it will depend what the total cost is. I am going to try to over clock in the future so I am also wondering if this stuff if decent enough to over clock and everything is compatible. I am also going with amd.

    Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

    Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876

    Graphics Card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130809

    HardDrive- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

    Power Supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182133

    Ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

    Cpu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996

    Heat sink- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
  2. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    The biggest problem I see here is your motherboard choice. I think you should get a much less expensive motherboard, as you are not likely to use enough of its features to justify that enormous price-tag.(I wouldn't dream of spending nearly 3 times as much on my motherboard than my CPU). Something like THIS or THIS is much more reasonable. I would put that extra money towards buying a better CPU.

    Although I don't mind you going with AMD, I would like to know why you elected to go with them.

    I would swap that power supply out for a better one. I've heard some bad Rosewill stories in the past, and although they're better now, I still wouldn't trust them to power my rig. Go with something from Seasonic, XFX or Corsair. You could probably safely downgrade to 650W as well, unless you plan to SLI in the future.

    The 660 Ti is a good choice, and so is EVGA. However, you might want to consider a HD 7950, which gives generally better performance for around the same price. Plus, AMD is giving out free games with the 7900 series, so I'd choose it over the 660 Ti.

    I'd also go with the newer Hyper 212 EVO over the Hyper 212 PLUS.
  3. Aaron Whitley

    Aaron Whitley TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I picked this power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 because the ones you mentioned were pretty expensive so is this an ok one for what I need. I am planning to SLI in the future so do you want me to up the wattage with the power supply? I chose this motherboard also http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514, I think I will also think about the graphics card. I chose AMD because well the price of the processor is way cheaper than intel's and if you compare intel's product to amd I mean gigahertz wise AMD out beats intels gigahertz.
  4. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Ghz isn't everything, the IPC for AMD's Bulldozer chips is extremely poor. Look at gaming benchmarks and you'll see why AMD chips are so cheap. Your budget can easily accomodate an i5 3570K and Z77 motherboard and that will last you a good 3 years of gaming.

    As LukeDJ mentioned AMD have some great AAA games bundled with their cards so a single 7950 or 7970 would be a good choice. However if you're planning to run multiple GPUs in the future Nvidia generally has better driver support for SLI and less microstutter so you might want to go for the GTX 670 (the 660Ti has lower memory bus which isn't ideal if you're considering SLI). You'll need at least a 750-800W PSU to run multiple GPUs.
  5. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    I would recommend a gold PSU and if you are a wire freak a modular PSU.
  6. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    That's a great power supply, and I do think you should definitely upgrade to the 750W version if you plan to SLI.

    As slh28 mentioned, Ghz is most definitely not everything. Look at any benchmark, and you can see why most mid end - high end gaming rigs use Intel. For your budget, I'd go with an i5-3570K and a nice Z77 motherboard, like THIS one or THIS one. Spending some extra on a good CPU is well worth it, as it will save you having to do motherboard CPU upgrade in the future (probably the most difficult upgrade to do).

    The GPU is up to you. I would personally go with a 7950 or 7970, which should play most games pretty well for at least the next few years. Once you need more power, you could get another for Crossfire, or just get one of the latest and greatest cards, and avoid multi-gpu's altogether.
  7. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    Well it is mainly GHz when it comes to gaming. When you get to hardcore computing like virtual machines and such, then you need to look at things like hyper threading, L3 Cache, etc
  8. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    I'm going to disagree with you there. Granted, a CPU will perform better if it is brought to a higher clock rate. It is not, however, the "main" factor when it comes to gaming performance. This is especially true for more modern titles, and likely titles in the future. Looking at the recent Crisis 3 Performance review, it is apparent that it is making much better use of multiple cores and other features of higher end processors.(notice the i7-920 at 2.66 GHz with only 2fps less than the FX-4170 at 4.2 GHz).
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  9. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    I never said cores are not important haha. I was just saying clock speeds are basically the only thing to consider for gaming if you are not an enthusiast
  10. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,367   +125

    LukeDJ is not trying to tell you that cores are important, but actually that actually GHz is not everything.
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  11. veLa

    veLa TS Booster Posts: 510   +81

    Really getting that expensive ASUS board and then going with a pathetic quad core is silly. For that price you can get AMD's top 8-core and a solid Gigabyte motherboard. Change your CPU/Motherboard to this combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1224909

    Also Rosewill doesn't make good power supplies but you could switch to this modular 750W OCZ unit for nearly the same price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041

    I'd switch the RAM to a 16GB kit but that's just me. Really though when you're spending that kind of cash, just get the 8-core CPU dude. That quad core isn't worth it and you'll see a way bigger difference with the CPU upgrade than having a slightly better ASUS board.
     
  12. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TS Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Exactly.

    We've already established that

    I still recommend Corsair, Seasonic or XFX over OCZ.
  13. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    I personally only like Corsair, I have tried Seasonic but I hear that Corsair uses Seasonic PSUs. I hear XFX have good PSUs but some people say they are bad.
  14. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Only some Corsair PSUs are Seasonic based, and those are the good ones. XFX are all Seasonic and hence are all good quality.

    Here's a comprehensive list of the OEM manufacturers for PSUs.
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  15. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    Interesting
  16. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,367   +125

    Just to clarify Rosewill is generally budget oriented but now they've really stepped up their power supplies. The review I have been citing is the Anandtech review of the Rosewill Capstone series PSUs, which are very decent gold rated power supplies. Occasionally you will find them on sale for great prices.
  17. Aaron Whitley

    Aaron Whitley TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Ok so bascially If im going with amd and if I choose this combo that one of you mentioned http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1224909 and if I go with intel I should go with the i5 with a decent motherboard.. Which processor is ment for gaming really its a tough decision to choose when 2 processers are thrown at you.. I mean what I said about AMD is just a personal preference that I didnt really look into, I chose amd cause my friends told me to go AMD cause it is cheaper but idk really now from what you guys have mentioned..
  18. stonarda

    stonarda TS Enthusiast Posts: 180   +17

    The amd 8350 and intel I-5 have pretty much thr same processing power and when compared together, they all seem to be pretty much equal so it doesn't really matter that much. If you are into overcloking, I hear teh AMD chips are better for this :)
  19. veLa

    veLa TS Booster Posts: 510   +81

    Technically the i5 would be slightly faster, but I'm running a similar AMD chip right now and I haven't been happier with a machine. Even happier than my first gen i7 machine. AMD is cheaper, going with that combo allows you to put a little more of your money towards your video card.
  20. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    Intels are more future proof than AMDs. People still game with 1st gen core i5s and i7s while people with X4 965s are seeing problems
  21. Aaron Whitley

    Aaron Whitley TS Rookie Topic Starter

  22. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 6,954   +901

    A power supply is usually universal, it isnt usually only compatible with x thing and not y thing. It just delivers power. I dont trust OCZ, go Corsair, Seasonic, or XFX
  23. Aaron Whitley

    Aaron Whitley TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Ok thanks, and know any suggestions for a good wireless card and do you know how they are?
  24. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,367   +125

    Consider just getting a motherboard with wifi. Otherwise just use a PCI slot card, they're generally much better than various USB dongles.
  25. Aaron Whitley

    Aaron Whitley TS Rookie Topic Starter



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