Conflict between "Wireless Network Connection" & "Local Area Connection"

By berkeleygh
Oct 1, 2010
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  1. Running XP on 2 computers. Have them connected by a router. I set the router IP to 192.168.3.1 Everything connects great! When I connect to a wireless network, it all connects, but doesn't work ("connection timed out" or "Page not found" errors. The wire connection shows an IP of 192.168.2.1. If I disable my Local Area Network, the internet connects perfectly. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I CAN USE MY LOCAL AREA NETWORK AND THE WIRELESS CONNECTION AT THE SAME TIME! Frustrating to the max! Any network specialists out there who can tell me how to fix this? Thanks!!!
  2. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,278   +280

    You should know that x.x.2.1 is incorrect. For the router address shown, all devices that connect to it *must* be 192.168.3.x where x > 1 and < 255.

    I would suspect that you have some static configuration data in the devices.

    You want your router to offer DHCP in the range 2->32 (that's more than enough) and
    you want all systems to use DHCP for the IP address and DNS settings.

    Remove anything in the Alternative Configurations
  3. berkeleygh

    berkeleygh Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Thanks, but didn't work. I tried changing my "Wireless Connection" to 192.168.3.1 and can't connect to internet. Maybe I wasn't clear... The internet doesn't come into MY router. I use a wireless card to access internet from another partment in the complex. THEIR router is set to 192.168.2.1, and the only way I can connect is to get auto IP, which turns out for me to be 192.168.2.50 My two computers are connected with a Netgear RT314 router, which I set to 192.168.3.1 I'm totally confused as to what to do now...
  4. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,278   +280

    1) that will never work; the 3.1 and 2.1 are different subnets and the
    would need a route addeded to make it work - - no I'll not explain further

    2) unless you have a written agreement to share your neighbor's Internet, your $%&^#$ from your neighbor and I'll not encourage you to solve the problem

    3) I hope no one else will either
  5. berkeleygh

    berkeleygh Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    I agreed with my neighbor to pay half their Comcast bill. She set it up as a public network, and agrees to let me use it. Besides, I can connect to 4 other public networks in the ramge of my wireless card, but when I try any of them, the results are exactly the same... I'm not trying to steal anything. The networks are there, they have willingly let me connect to them. All I want to do is make my two computers connect on my local network. EVERY one of the public networks I access have the same IP when I go to "Status" on my wireless connection (192.168.2.1) Why can't my 2 computers connect at the same time? I'm totally confused!
  6. berkeleygh

    berkeleygh Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    A personal addendum to "jobeard"... I admire your ethics, and understand your reluctance to help me when you think I may be trying to scam my neighbor. BUT i NEED HELP IN SOLVING THIS PROBLEM! I already paid her $22 for the first month, and I bought her the hardware ($76) to set up her wireless. If it makes you feel more comfortable, I'll give you my name, address, pone number, etc., along with her name, address, phone number, etc, and you can contact her to verify that I'm being honest with you. I'm out almost a hundred bucks. Not too bad, because I CAN connect to the internet (my primary goal), but I still want to be able to connect my 2 home computers at the same time. PLEASE contact me via email (gordon.heavner@yahoo.com) and ask for whatever verification willing make you comfortable in helping me solve this problem. It seems as though you know how to fix it... I just hope there's some way I can convince you that I'm not trying to do anything illegal, unethical, immoral or shady. Thanks in advance for at least considering verifying my honesty!
  7. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,278   +280

    ok, here's the scoop;

    the Owner has an ISP and a router address of 192.168.2.1

    your router address is set to 192.168.3.1, but that's the LAN side address your systems will see.

    the WAN side address on your router will be related to the OWNER's lan address, like 192.168.2.x.

    1) first, you need to know your MAC address
    which can be seen using run->cmd /k ipconfig /all and shows up as the Phyical Address

    2) you need the OWNER to set an IP address for your MAC address that is predicable
    or you need to coerce the WAN side address to something like 192.168.2.100
    (or anything above her DHCP range)

    once this is all done
    you need her to add a static route in her router like
    route 192.168.3.* to 192 168.2.100

    Each router has its own config settings to make this all happen, so go step-by-step

    you're done when you can use
    command prompt
    nslookup google.com. {note the trailing DOT}

    and your brower can access www.google.com
  8. berkeleygh

    berkeleygh Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    Where in the heck did you learn all this stuff? I'm a Chef and always thought I was good at computers, but this is way out of my level of competence...

    Anyway, thanks. It makes sense, after I reread it a dozen time. My neighbor is gone for the weekend, but I emailed her your instructions, and have done on my end what I think you said to do. Pretty sure I got it right; at least I got the MAC address and all, and shot that to her in my email.

    Monday, we'll see how everything works out. You're so technical that I'm sure this is going to work, and feel confident that by Monday night I'll have both internet access and be able to have my two computers working together again.

    So thanks in advance!!! Hopefully, I won't have any more problems and won't need additional help from you. I just want to let you know how much I appreciate it! I live in Berkeley. If you're ever in this neighborhood, let me know and I'll treat you to dinner at my restaurant and buy you drinks anyweher in town! Without your expert knowledge, I'd be frustrated beyond belief and probably throw both my beloved computers out the window!

    Thanks again... Gordon (berkeleygh)
  9. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,278   +280

    Keep us posted on your progress.

    Very nice offer :wave:


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