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cpu high,low pc and system idle proceess 90%

By itaosl
Aug 27, 2007
  1. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,374   +167

    Hey TMAGIC650 (and others as well)

    Don't know if you just downloaded Process Explorer and are just now trying it out or you been using it awhile. Wanted to point out one feature in particular that i find extremely helpful. So helpful, i added it to my windows startup file list.

    The Feature
    When ProcessExplorer is minimized you can have it appear as an icon in your system tray providing you a (near) real-time graphic display of CPU utilitzation.
    • The green wave graphic displays total CPU Utilization
    • The red wave always appears within the green wav. Red indicates which one process is taking up the most CPU
    • When you position the cursor over the graphic you get a text display of total CPU % usage, the process name of the biggest CPU hog and its CPU % usage
    Can't count how many times this was useful when my machine was sluggish and the visual graphics made it quick and easy to see what was happening

    Configuring the Feature
    Two ways to do it
    • Change the option manually after the app is already up. Options->Hide When Minimized
    • My personal preferred solution. Add Process Explorer to you startup programs with a command line option to run mimimized
      1. You;ll want easy access to your startup programs AND the ability to easily add/remove/modify the startup data which appears. Download Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel. The program will be installed in your Control Panel as an applet named Startup
      2. Go to your Control Panel and open Startup
      3. Click the HKLM\Run tab (this provides the list for startups for ALL Users.)
      4. Position cursor over the current list of displayed entries. Right Click->New. You'll get a pop-up allowing you to add a new entry to the list
      5. Type in name of program as you'd like it to appear
      6. Now create the command line entry. Enter the executable by either Browsing Files (look for its file version on disk) or by Browsing Processes (look for it currently running). NEXT IMPORTANT STEP: add command line option. To the right of the executable type a space then \t. Click Close
      7. Test it after u closed the New window above. Click to highlight the new startup line you entered. Right Click -> Run Now to run it. You should see Process Explorer start as a small graphic in the system tray displaying CPU utilization
    Two addtional notes
    • You can change the refresh rate as needed. View->Update Speed
    • Altho it's a lightweight process i have see occassions where DVD playback is a little jerky. I'll exit Process Explorer (or reduce the update rate) and playback is then fine. But issues like these have been isolated cases. I still find it much more helpful to autostart Process Explorer minimized so i can normally just use it's CPU utilization display. I have lots of times i'm glad it's started and available already!
     
  2. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    Thanks for the useful info there LookinAround. I`m sure that will come in handy.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  3. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,934   +167

    Yes LookinAround thank you...

    I'm new to Process Explorer, so this post helps a lot
     
  4. LookinAround

    LookinAround TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 8,374   +167

    Glad it helps. It packs an incredible amount of data available into a single tool. i been using it a coupla years and still haven't explored everything available through it. Select a process you're familiar with and here's just a couple of places to start playing with as far as what u can do wtih the util
    1. Click View->Show Lower Pane so it is checked
      Now switch between View->Lower Pane View checking either Handle or DLL. Just watch and find the differnt information you;ll learn from the running process, such as open file descriptors (which will also point you to its temp working space) dll's in use, etc. Also be sure and Right click different things to see if you get Properties and checkout what that further tells you​
    2. Right click Properties on the process line item and start go through all the data shown for the process on each tab displayed. And also hit the additional buttons available on each tab
     
  5. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    Which anti-spyware would you suggest me to use?
    I run legally(license for live) both spyware detector and Stopzilla for a long time now without any problem of compatibility. The problems started one month ago.I honestly would like to believe these two are not the cause. I really none of these two programs wound like to uninstall.It's a question of money.......you do understand !But if I had too do so which one should I weed out?
     
  6. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

  7. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    OK!
    I have removed several programs as well as windows defender,ad-aware 2007 pro, spyboot search and destroy.I run stopzilla and spyware defender and Kasperky since i did not have any problem with them running together previously. I let Symantec's Norton Ghost and Norton password manager on the systemfor the same reason.

    I also cleaned the registry and the HD. Nevertheless, the problem persists! I suppose ther's nothing else to do than formating....!

    Since my laptop has a double partition (C and D) and C is 17% free while D is empty, do you think that could be a reason for causing this problem?
     

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  8. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,934   +167

    As I said...
     
  9. Daveskater

    Daveskater Banned Posts: 2,031

    how big is partition D? you could move stuff that takes up a lot of your hdd over to it (e.g. i moved all my music to my slave drive). it's recommended that you have 20% free space to have decent performance. you could always remove the partition if it's empty :) that would give you more space
     
  10. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,934   +167

    Partition D may not be empty. It may be formatted strictly for use by the restore utility on the computer
     
  11. Daveskater

    Daveskater Banned Posts: 2,031

    that's what i was thinking, that's why i wondered how big it was. should have said really ;) haha i'm tired so forgot (it's gone 12am now :eek: bed time)
     
     
  12. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    You might want to copy and paste these instructions into a notepad file. Then you can have the file open in safe mode, so you can follow the instructions easier.

    Boot into safe mode, under your normal user name(NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR ACCOUNT). See how HERE.

    In Windows Explorer, turn on "Show all files and folders, including hidden and system". See how HERE.

    Go to add remove programmes in your control panel and uninstall anything to do with(if there).

    SweetIMBarForIE

    Close control panel.

    Run HJT with no other programmes open(except notepad). Click the scan button. Have HJT fix the following, by placing a tick in the little box next to(if there).

    R3 - URLSearchHook: SweetIM For Internet Explorer - {BC4FFE41-DE9F-46fa-B455-AAD49B9F9938} - C:\Program Files\Macrogaming\SweetIMBarForIE\toolbar.dll

    F1 - win.ini: load=C:\WINDOWS\MiXedVeX.bat

    F1 - win.ini: run=C:\WINDOWS\MiXedVeX.bat

    O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - (no file)

    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)

    O2 - BHO: PCTools Browser Monitor - {B56A7D7D-6927-48C8-A975-17DF180C71AC} - (no file)

    O2 - BHO: (no name) - {DF071700-66A4-42A3-8D3A-FF385B5E6ED1} - (no file)

    O2 - BHO: FlashGet GetFlash Class - {F156768E-81EF-470C-9057-481BA8380DBA} - (no file)

    O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {D3919E62-D6A5-11D6-AC3E-00B0D094B576} - (no file)

    O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {DE9C389F-3316-41A7-809B-AA305ED9D922} - (no file)

    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ShowIcon_JustRams_USB Product Driver v2.33r005] "C:\Program Files\USB Product Driver v2.33r005\shwicon.exe" -t"JustRams\USB Product Driver v2.33r005"

    O16 - DPF: {2B1AA38D-2D12-11D5-AAD0-00C04FA03D78} (LocalExec Control) - https://insite.warwick.ac.uk/nps/portal/gadgets/com.novell.nps.gadgets.shortcut. ShortcutGadget/LocalExec.CAB

    O16 - DPF: {AF2E62B6-F9E1-4D4F-A10A-9DC8E6DCBCC0} (VideoEgg ActiveX Loader) - http://update.videoegg.com/Install/Windows/Initial/VideoEggPublisher.exe

    Click on the fix checked button.

    Close HJT.

    Locate and delete the following bold files and/or directories(if there).

    C:\WINDOWS\MiXedVeX.bat
    C:\Program Files\Macrogaming\SweetIMBarForIE

    Reboot into normal mode and rehide your protected OS files.

    Post a fresh HJT log.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  13. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    If Task Manager shows CPU as idle, but the system feels slow and the percentages in Task Manager don't add up, there may be an interrupt or DPC (Deferred Procedure Call) problem.

    In that case, I suggest you get RATTV3 to check which driver is using the most CPU time. Did you upgrade any drivers a month ago?
     
  14. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    I cannot boot into save mode!
    After pressing F8 windows try to load in safe mode when suddenly a blue icon appears for 1 second and the system restarts before load is finished !!!!
    This icon is similar to the system crash. Any help?

    I have turned on the automatic updater for the drivers as well!
     
  15. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    In that case, try following the instructions from normal mode.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  16. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    I can't find SweetIMBarForIE uninstaller.It is not in the add remove programmes neither in its program files. where can it be?
     
  17. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    Don`t worry, just delete the folders I told you to, if there.

    Regards Howard:)
     
  18. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    Howard,

    I did not find SweetIMBarForIE uninstaller so I just canceled the folder from program files

    I did what you suggested me but the things are worse than ever!

    When I reboot the system after the having run HJT I got an indication that the hardware configuration and settings were changed.I had to confirm or escape with F3.I thought It was normal and I confirmed it!

    When Windows now are starting up immediately I get the warning that the system is shutting down and thousands of command prompt Windows appear. Of course the system is shutting down!!!!!!

    I thought the cause was that I removed

    F1 - win.ini: load=C:\WINDOWS\MiXedVeX.bat

    F1 - win.ini: run=C:\WINDOWS\MiXedVeX.bat


    Not even by restoring them I resolved anything
    I also tried to restore the system on an earlier date but it was useless


    HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!
     
  19. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    I seriously think it`s time you considered backing up your important data and reformatting.

    Maybe that, will solve your problems.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  20. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    This is what I was having in mind!
     
  21. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,934   +167

    Delete the existing partitions and do a full format before you reinstall Windows. This will ensure that you get rid of all the nasties, once and for all
     
  22. Nirkon

    Nirkon TS Enthusiast Posts: 243

    the "system idle" process is the percentage of all the cpu that isnt in use!

    but.. you have 77 running processes!!!! and 1.25GB page file in use!!!
    i have 29 running processes, and 325mb page file in use!

    have you tried quitting those 35+ running programs in the background?
    just by looking at the taskbar i can see why your computer is slow.
     
  23. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    I 'm formatting today.Does any one of you know a way how to save Skype and Voipcheap.com contacts ?(I mean not write all of them down one by one)
     
  24. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 25,948   +19

    Your contacts should automatically be there when you log back in to the applications. Well, they are in my Yahoo messenger.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  25. itaosl

    itaosl TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 38

    Skype and Voipcheap.com do not store them on the server.That's why i 'm asking!
     
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