CPU/motherboard upgrade

By Terry Haney
Feb 13, 2013
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  1. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    Dont waste your money on thunderbolt, it isnt that great, it is too hyped. The next gen USB3 will match it. I recommend ASUS over Gigabyte, but get what you think is best.
  2. Terry Haney

    Terry Haney Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 22

    So ThunderBolt is not much. I read an article that made it sound like lightning. The article said you could daisychain hard drives and it would be faster than RAID. Why would you say Asus over Gigabyte? I was leaning toward the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5 because it still has firewire I/O. I am currently using the Focusrite Liquid Saffire 56 which is a firewire unit. I also have a control surface that is firewire. I could get a card, but it would be nice to have it on the motherboard. Which Asus are you talking about?
  3. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Yes, thunderbolt is uber fast, which is why it's likely to become a big thing in the future. Currently, however, there isn't much that could make use of that uber speed. The UD5 seems like the way to go for you I think. Asus make great boards as well, and you can go with them if you find one you like. I like Gigabyte because I have had good experiences with them, and I find them to be the most durable and reliable. Brand choice is purely personal choice, so go with whatever you like.
  4. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    Thunderbolt isnt worth the extra money at the moment. If you use firewire go Gigabyte I guess
  5. Terry Haney

    Terry Haney Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Hello All. I went with your advise on what to buy. I have a question about the CPU cooler. The artic paste ran over the sides of the cpu. Will this cause trouble? Should I take it off and do it over? Thanks Terry
  6. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    Yeah, you want to redo it or else it may cause damage. You only need a pea size amount of thermal paste like shown here: [​IMG]

    You remove thermal paste with Alcohol. If you do not know, "Remove the CPU from the socket, use something without linen in it (Coffee Filter is a good example), and use rubbing alcohol to clean it ALL off. Make sure there is NONE of the old paste on your CPU." (Courtesy of a forum post on Toms Hardware).
  7. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Yeah you probably put too much on, it's a common rookie error.
  8. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 301   +81

    FWIW when I apply paste I do it like JC713, but then I use the plastic bag over the finger to spread to edge to edge, Concerned if I leave it like in the picture it will just ******* into a circular contact and I want total contact. Also only board I have ever had fail was Gigabyte (bad electrolytic capacitor-the ones that look like a can) so I have stuck with Asus. Totally agree with JC and Luke
  9. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    People say this helps, but for rookies, it is fine to keep it as it is.
  10. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    It totally doesn't, just take a look this video, it shows how the paste spreads when using each method. All the plastic bag method does is create air bubbles.

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  11. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 301   +81

    Thanks for the link, the few heatsinks I have removed, I have never seen this, I get the tree thing. But I may give the 'dot' method a try. Always ready to learn new things, perhaps I have just been lucky with the spread thing.
     
  12. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    Maybe the dot method will last you longer.
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  13. Terry Haney

    Terry Haney Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Hello all - Here is an update: Because I am a rookie I have been really taking my time with this build, well, that and my lovely Bride's "to do" list keeps me pretty busy. I went with all the hardware you guys suggested, and the total came out to around $1100.00. That doesn't count the video card. I haven't purchased that yet. I am going with JC's suggestion on the graphics, but I am still trying to stay as close as possible to the original price point, so I have been searchingh ebay and all the online stores for the best deal, or the biggest bang for the buck. The Gigabyte board has onboard graphics in the meantime. I just have to hold off on the video editing. Thanks so much for the advice on the contact goo. I went in and cleaned it as best as possible. I used this arctic stuff. I think I'm ok with that now. Thanks again. Remember I was taking my editing PC (the ADK built one) and purchasing a barebonesPC, then swapping parts around to end up with a blazing video/audio PC and a decent PC for the initernet, etc. So it is 2 PC's. I first took the dual core Quad 6600 chip/Intel 35DP35 MB and RAM from the ADK PC and pieced together the barebones (I'll call it the goof-off PC). When I was finished and booted it, I got nothing (YIKES!) The DVD player was beeping loudly when the power was connected to it, The fans all worked, but nothing else was happening. So, I was re-seating everything and continued to boot, but it just wouldn't get past post. The intel Manual was no real help.Their section on Post problems and beep codes was no real help at all. During 1 boot try I heard a faint 3 beeps. I started looking around and ended up at this site called PC Hell, which said the 3 beeps was memory or the MB could be shot. I had already cleaned the Ram cards, blew the inputs, etc and reseated the RAM several times. So after reading through the manual again I found one little sentence on the this fail safe on it that would tell if it didn't have all the proper screws holding it down. Those little gold post things that lift the motherboard. I only used about 3/4 of them thinking I may run out. That was it! I felt pretty stupid. So I took it all apart, mounted it right, put it back together, and it works fine. YEA! Then I assembled the ADK with the upgrades, and it worked first time. That is a real good feeling. Now I am still going through some issues, though. The old set up was RAID. with 6 hard drives. Some were part of the RAID, one was for the OS and there was a non raid HD (maybe 2, I am not really sure). This is weird, because the Antec PSU from the ADK PCn only comes with 4 SATA connectors, all the drives are SATA? I don't remember how this all went together. I was too quick to remove hard drives, but I still don't understand how ADK did this with the Antec PSU. The Thermaltake PSU I bought has 6 SATA connections. The problem is now the ADK PC doesn't recognize the hard drives. It sees the SSD drive. I have checked the drives with an external SATA harness (BlacX) box and the drives are not bad, but it tells me I need to format them. I have music and video I don't (can't) loose. I am afraid to set the bios to disable RAID for fear of loosing files. I don't know which drives are RAID. I just loaded the drives into the goof-off PC and moved the data from one drive to the other, although some files would not move? This probably means it is a raid drive and these files are saved across multiple drives (?). Am I right in assuming that these drives are not recognized because of the RAID 0 setup? I am trying to save what I can, but does this mean I need to re-format these drives? Thanks for all the help! What do you guys think? I don't really understand RAID.
  14. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    660Ti is great. Good choice. Never buy computer components from eBay. Some people may disagree, but I say never go with eBay.
  15. LukeDJ

    LukeDJ TechSpot Addict Posts: 414   +112

    Agreed, stay away from Ebay, it's too big of a gamble in my opinion.

    As for the problems with the older PC, well, all I can say is that you should have backed up the drives onto external HD's or another PC. I'm no RAID expert, but I don't know if you can easily transfer a RAID array between PC's, especially if you have no idea how the drives were arranged. If it's asking for a re-format, then you may have to do it :(

    Again, I'm no expert, so don't lose hope, I'm sure there's a way to recover the files.
  16. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,853   +889

    Repost your new issue in the storage section. Before you do that though, maybe jobeard (storage expert) can drop a though on this issue if he knows anything.
  17. Terry Haney

    Terry Haney Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 22

    I have an external drive that will hold all the files I need, if I can transfer them. I am going to save what I can and re-format. If I loose some files I can re-edit the video I need. It will just take more time. Thanks.
  18. Terry Haney

    Terry Haney Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Hello all. Sorry this took so long to reply, but everything is up and running well. Thanks for all the great advice!


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