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Well what you're suggesting then is that three generations of consoles from now, they'll be equivalent to where PCs are today. Considering this wont be until some time around 2025 at the earliest, that sounds just as outlandish to me.
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Well what you're suggesting then is that three generations of consoles from now, they'll be equivalent to where PCs are today. Considering this wont be until some time around 2025 at the earliest, that sounds just as outlandish to me.
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That was never in question. The dispute was over princeton's eccentric and offbeat ideas about graphics card series being analogous with console generations, as if they're even remotely comparable, and then using that as a basis for some "PC is 3 generations ahead of consoles" argument, which is obviously laughable to anyone. A perfect example for the case that maybe some people should be using a guest account to save embarrassing themselves with hilariously wrong comments. The irony.Rage_3K_Moiz said:It's always been the case and it will remain so; image quality on consoles will continue to lag behind that capable on PCs. Also, games are usually far easier to port to consoles (at least for the X360) once they've been developed for the PC.
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It amazes me to read on here, the Childmen whining about PC graphics. Good God its gaming, its not life or death. The problem is the piracy, if they could make good money from a PC only game they would do it.. but the FreeLovers will have it cracked and baked in half a day, so why should they bother? I am glad that Pc games drop in price quickly as otherwise I couldn't afford them. And you can bet that the 80-90% of the next consoles are already designed .. they're just getting the max juice out of the present ones. I have it on Good authorty that there will something fresh and new to buy, on the console front, before Next Christmas. Watch for the new Dev Kits going into the game houses, 100x better graphics, 1080p, 5.1 or better sound and multi-multi cores.
So stop your complaining and fire up a turbo charged PiggyBank. Expect early prices £600 from Sony and £550 from Microsoft.
Don't be silly. Current PC's are 3 generations ahead of what consoles are relatively. When the next gen consoles come out they will be nearly on par(or at least I hope) with PC's. You must consider the advances in AA, AF, ambient occlusion, soft shadows, and countless other features that are added to every generation. Consoles are still stuck on bloom, 2X AA on Xbox and AF is crap on consoles. Maybe we have misunderstood each others argument. keep in mind, Moore's law does agree with me.Moore's law isn't relevant here. If you're not defining "generations" as new generations of consoles, then you're just arbitrarily deciding what's meant by it - which is not at all how the term was used in the original article. As I said earlier Yerli was referring to the fact that the PC is currently a generation ahead of consoles as defined by previous jumps from each new console generation, i.e. where the PC is now is approximately where the next generation of consoles are going to be. So if the PC is three generations ahead, then after three new console generations (probably around 2025 or later) consoles are only going to be as graphically capable as a 2010 PC. If you want to define "generations" here as being equivilent to a new version of DirectX or a new Radeon/GeForce series, or a cluster of new features like ambient occlusion then fine, but realise that's not at all relevant to the way it was used in the article.
Fact is, the next generation of consoles will be roughly on par with a mid-range PC at the time of release, same as they've always been (despite being technically inferior which is compensated by being dedicated hardware rather than multipurpose).
There are 2 main reasons why console gaming will always be around: Piracy and Cost.
Most big gamers are the same techies who use torrents and know how to get what they want for free. Sure you can mod an Xbox or Playstation but at the same time you can ruin it, void the warranty, and the updates keep modders from accessing online content.
I say cost is the other reason because who wants to buy a $500 graphics card every year to keep up with the technology? Then every few years you need to upgrade the motherboard to get the faster memory or processor. Lots of gamers are younger people that don't really have that money or have other priorites and needs in life than to waste it on games.
Sounds like a PC to me.Guest said:All microsoft wold have to do is market a simple Mobo/CPU package and let you upgrade the graphics cards as you go. And then once every 10 years come out with a new Mobo/cpu package that way they can regulate the modifieers and hackers you get when you play online. Make it like the 360 where they can go in look at the system you hack you out. Thats why microsoft doesnt go to the PC they want X box live to be equal. Well every one has to use the same MOBO/cpu and pick a graphics company probly ATI and bingo bango.
It's not that hard guys.
PC games feel OMG UP TO DATE when the newest consoles have been released. Then you guys complain and complain about games not achieving their full potential 2+ years down the road, and it gets worse as time goes on.
Also, $250 vs $2500 .. I think I know where I'm going!