Desktop freezes

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well....

the best quote i now use and repeat (with credits to someone else who posted in some prior thread)...

"Who needs a hobby when you have a PC?"
 
haha ain't it the truth.

Ok I've attached my bootlog and it appears that essentially nothing loaded that was supposed to. So where do I go from here before I start from scratch?

oh and if i do start from scratch... do i install a driver for my monitor?
 
do the bootlogging into safe mode (it looks like is a normal boot)

did you try forcing base video driver?

(and note (just in case you didn't know) you need to look at then end of the file and scroll up or as you have more then one boot logged in there. i don't which is what or what was intended or the switches used is helpful)

so boot into safe mode minimal and try the base video
 
and finally....

i'm going to bed shortly... will have to see how you;re doing sometime tomorrow (btw do you know what bios version it was you upgraded to?)

and what monitor make/model are you using (don't look to see if you said before) but would guess it should work (tho maybe limited functionality) with default drivers so, no don't load.

in fact, how many updates are there? you may wnat to try one at a time
 
I updated to 2001 release which i believe was put out a few weeks ago. It's the latest.

I have an LG Flatron W1952TQ, for what it's worth.

I'm not sure I follow what you mean by number of updates...

and here is the last bootlog. thanks for all your help, don't let the bed bugs bite
 
Ok this just went from bad to worse. I reassembled my whole computer from scratch, pulled out the cmos bettery/jumpered it, made sure everything was in right...turned it on and was installing windows. As soon as the first dialog comes up asking about regional settings and your name it froze. I rebooted and it froze on the asus logo. rebooted again, and it froze at the same place installing windows.

I didn't change anything in the bios the first time around. After the first freeze I changed the RAM voltage to 2.1 to make sure it wasn't undervolted. But other than that I didn't do anything and that certainly didn't help.

What do I do?
 
Reset CMOS to defaults (from within CMOS setup) ie Press DEL (or whatever the key is to get into CMOS setup when you first turn on the computer).

Then run Memtest on your Ram for 7 Passes
 
I don't have a floppy drive... how do I go about doing that?

and I ran memtest before, all night, and didn't get any errors
 
And am not quite sure what it means but all those bootlog messages

1. You don't have lots of "fail" messages vs. Did not load driver messages and even then most don't list the driver file by name

2. But some that did
Did not load driver Serial.SYS
Did not load driver Processor.SYS
Did not load driver AmdK8.SYS​
are like others that seem related to the motherboard.

Not sure if indicative of mother board failure (anything you re-load/can re-initialize for its chipset?)

Just more observations... sorry nothing solid
 
Well kimsland that looks like a good idea but unfortunately I don't have easy access to a cd burner... none of my friends have one and nor does my school computer lab. Will keep looking though.

And I looked at those threads... that is in fact the exact memory I have in the second thread. But I haven't had a problem in the 9 or so months that I've had the computer and I've set the proper voltage and timing to the best of the bios's limited functionality. I dunno.

I've also observed that the recent freezes as windows begins installing consistently happen right when the mouse and keyboard turn on... I'll see the laser right before I have to type my name and then it'll freeze. Could just be that I'm desperately searching for some clue and that's just all I could see and it doesn't mean anything.

Thanks for all your help so far guys
 
Well...

1) Has been awhile... Is my error in interpreting your bootlogs. In reviewing your post with safebootlog
  • Note that bootlogs append to each other and are normally generated during a safe boot
  • So the last log entry in that file Service Pack 1 9 2 2008 21:53:08.375 was the safe mode boot when you were changing the boot.ini file
  • The one before it Service Pack 1 9 2 2008 21:16:05.375 was the normal boot you did and was logged because of your change to the boot.ini file (the ones still prior were safe mode boots normally logged by XP)
  • Important point is: NONE of them recorded driver failure.
  • All those not loaded messages in the last log look like it's specifically BECAUSE it is a safe mode boot up (so are ok)
  • The only drivers not loaded during normal boot am guessing drivers not needed
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
    ​
2) That said,
  • Did you ever try it forcing the base video driver?
  • Do you still have that external video card in there? Isn't there another port available on the motherboard? Can you continue without the video (or any other) uneeded card?
 
Yes I tried forcing the base driver (/basevideo) and it at least brought the display out of 4bit color mode, but didn't stop the freezes.

And now... I tried booting with one stick of ram at a time... the first stick booted but froze, the second didn't boot, and now both together won't boot. The computer is on with the fans running etc but nothing happens.

I will try removing the 8800gt and see what happens. can't get a whole lot worse.
 
Ok I put the memory in as listed in that thread, one on each color (which is NOT condoned by the manual, for the record) and it booted but froze again.

HOWEVER:

I removed the 8800GT and was pleasantly surprised to find that windows installed and I am now writing this from my computer, no crashes in the last 10 minutes.

So. Assuming we've actually hit the source of the issues, what do I do now? I know the 8800gt is compatible for the board because it worked fine before. I will see if there is someone who can let me install it in their computer to see if it works. The card should be fine, though, I don't see why it wouldn't be... so assuming it is in fact ok what should I do to get it talking to the rest of my machine again?

Thanks for all your help, guys, you've been wonderful.
 
Congrats! :grinthumb

Remember:
- You've changed your monitor which may have new/different demands on the video driver and the video card
- Check mfr. web sites to look for compatibility issues betwen the two and make certain the right driver loading is correct How to Determine Which Video Driver Is Loading in Windows XP (tho if you said you had failures even when you forced the base video driver the problem sounds like an issue with the video card)
 
I've scoured both nVidia's website and LG's website and neither shwo any compatibility problems. But I think I'm going to wait a little while before trying to put the 8800GT back in, as I would rather have a slightly less functional PC at this point than one that won't even boot. I'll let you know what happens when I do.

i can't thank you enough for your help.
 
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