Developer of The Witcher 2 plans to hunt pirates

I took nothing out of context. The facts are what they are and you are engaging in double-speak (why are they spending money only to complain about losing it) to chastise companies for trying to protect their investment interests from horrific levels of theft.

Again, you are the one who is trying to defend your comments (and piracy) with the asinine, "it's OK to steal if you don't want to buy it" excuse.

Wow this really escalated quickly didn’t it.

Since no one has even the slightest chance of winning this online keyboard fight or the million just like it on forums all around the world wide web, we need a better means to vent/fight and argue or as some gentlemen might say discuss.

One of these developers needs to come up with a virtual reality octagon where all battles no matter how big or small can be settled there Now that would be way more fun for the participants and the spectators.

Anyway as you were...

Yeah that’s not a bad proposal but I am still leaning towards virtual reality with pain mode enabled

Yes, you did. If you would have quoted the whole thing your post wouldn't have made sense. That's taking out of context. Read past that part and you see that I went on to say that they should be like us and target UPLOADERS.

"Guess what, princeton, if there wasn't any theft - or even a minimal amount of theft - they wouldn't be doing this. "

Of course they wouldn't Tom. Everyone knows business' are known for never taking advantage of customers.

Princeton is also correct. Why would you target the downloaders? That is like arresting junkies but letting the pushers go free. What real progress have they made in the last 10 years?

Starcraft II was downloaded how many times? Yet Blizzard remains one of the richest game companies.

I have yet to see any proof how piracy has ACTUALLY hurt the gaming industry. These companies that make half a billion dollar profit and cry that piracy is hurting them are full of sh*t. The issue is not about piracy, it is about greed.

The creator of Minecraft (btw a really successful game) shared his views on piracy. He said "If someone pirates Minecraft instead of buying it, it means I’ve lost some “potential” revenue. Not actual revenue, as I can never go into debt by people pirating the game too much, but I might’ve made even more if that person had bought the game instead. But what if that person likes that game, talks about it to his or her friends, and then I manage to convince three of them to buy the game? I’d make three actual sales instead of blocking out the potentially missed sale of the original person which never cost me any money in the first case."

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1121596044/how-piracy-works

Did you see that..He cannot go into debt because he has not lost "actual revenue" He may not be happy is someone pirates his game BUT he is not losing ANYTHING. In fact he claims that the word of mouth may actually let him profit more.

Release the game with a price for 29.99 and well you wouldn't have too worry about too many downloaders. But put the price at 50 and above , well the problems will start.

I totally agree with Tha General, i remember reading about some kind of proposed bill that would make video games $40. that would be a great way to combat piracy. especially when alot of games only have a 4-5 hour single player. There has to be a majority of gamers who want a good solid single player and is not interested in multiplayer. Why not release a game with just a single player mode at like $30 and then an add on or stand-alone downloadable/CD multiplayer for an extra $30.

This is all quite funny when you think about it. Hey let advertise the fact that they are cracking down on piracy and post it on a site where people go to see how a game is developing. They would catch a lot more people if they hunted pirates without advertising the fact that they are going to be looking for them. And as for their threat, it kinda makes me want to acquire it now that they told us that it's pissing them off. ^^

As long as they make a fine enough game, I personally can't find a reason not to buy it, especially if it will be available on Steam. Maybe they should focus their efforts on refining the game instead of making making useless statements.

Absurd! I guess people at the helm of Witcher 2 development are either naive or stupid. There will always be a better developer / programmer out there in the world that can circumvent the process. Its like virus-antivirus or David-Goliath story for that matter.

PS. I think I got carried away

It's amazing how so many try to justify pirating a game.

Have I done it in the past? Yes because I was young and stupid. I have since grown up and refuse to accept that it was ever justified.

I hope they have a lot of paper to print those nasty letters on.

Oh, and just because Spore had DRM that makes it right?

As for CDProjekt doing what they are doing, bravo to them for NOT putting in DRM. They DID have DRM in the original game, but later released a patch that removed it. And of course, these are the same people who bring us DRM-free games via Good 'Ol Games, so all in all, I'm pleased with them and find no issue with what they want to do. They have every right to do so. They wrote the program, it's theirs, period. You are buying license to play the game. In the end, the people that actually own the IP rights to the program are the developers and company that distributes it.

I guess when you write a fantastic program in the future and you sell it, you won't get mad when they pirate it? I mean, because apparently "they" own it right?


You're full of it and you know it. Don't even TRY to justify your stealing the game. It's what you did, period and it doesn't make it right not matter HOW intrusive the DRM might have been.

If you don't like the DRM, don't buy the software. It's what I've done with Assassin's Creed II. I refuse to purchase and install it (and the latest Splinter Cell) and I won't pirate it either.

No excuse you come up with will justify pirating software.

DUDE, NOW ITS SUPPOSE TO BE COOL TO HAVE 2 COPIES OF A GAME!!??

Well, I dont meant to be exceptic but as I dont play this game, he could go Pirates home and kill them, that´s the only way to stop that, and by pirate I dont mean the people who torrent games, I mean the people who live out of that and make money out that, STOP TRYING TO BLAME PEOPLE WHO MAYBE DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY EVERY FREAKING GAME COMES OUT. They are not the ones to blame, blame the way life is diferent for everyone, Today you are on the top, but you dont know if tomorrou you´ll be one of those downloading through torrent.

Why do people feel entitled to games? The developer/vendor charges too much for games or puts DRM in games therefore I'm entitled to steal these games and blame the developer. What logic is this? Using this same logic, I think computers, cars, food, everything is too darn expensive so I should be able to just take it. If you think something is too expensive or doesn't have the features or options you want don't buy it or steal it, move along to something else. Use your energy in helping others, instead of selfish ego based desires.

Dude, I had respect for you when you said in the Friday Night Fragfest you've done over 1200 hours of TF2.

Now after reading your posts here. I have lost all respect for you.

There simply is no need to pirate games especially if you have the money to.

Read review's (user and proffessional) and if the game got a decent meta score its easy to say its a safe bet to buy. Play a Demo if it has one or find a friend that already owns it.

you Don't need to Pirate a game to "Test it" and even worse if you have Pirated it just because its not on Steam! Go buy the disc orsomething, its no biggie if its not on steam.

While the Guest above me was a bit harsh he has a point. If you cannot afford games do not buy them.

a lot of people cannot afford cars yet they're not all going to go and steal one?!

Simple as that, Anyone choosing the whole "games are too expensive so i'll steal them" excuse.

ITS NOT AN EXCUSE!

@Minecraft dev example: Possibly the most level-headed view on software piracy I've ever seen, from just about anyone.

I also agree with a comment regarding going after the uploaders/seeders rather than the downloader/leechers. You are not particularly punishing the right side here; punishing the downloader won't stop the uploader from uploading software, but punishing the uploader generally makes it more difficult for the downloader to illegally access said software. Remove the enablers will help curb the behavior.

At least the Dev intends to do it themselves, rather than let some grubbing middleman.