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Direct3D failure when running dxdiag tool

Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by SpikeVGC, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    you are running dual monitors then? what lost is me is why hook up S-video out (not in) and VGA to HDMI at the same time

    Did you install the Catalyst Control Center? I think there might be a setting in there to help with this

    Also let me know exactly what you are using as far as monitor/monitors
  2. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    Main monitor is a Cornerstone 21/75 fp 21"CRT

    Second monitor is my Projector set up in clone view so when I feel like watching a movie I can watch it on the Projector.

    Catalyst control center is installed. Currently I have my monitor hooked up to the standard VGA. not with the adapter from hdmi to vga.
  3. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    have you played around in the setting under displays manager ->

    detect displays
    force tv detection

    Let me know if this works
  4. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    ok will try that, but any work around for the games? thats my main concern now
  5. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    what resolution and refresh rate are you running
  6. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    1024*765 75hz for desktop use

    800*600 60hz for gaming, I am even forcing the games or 3d apps to 60 in the 3d Refresh rate over ride
     
  7. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    for 1 it seems your refresh rates are backwards. Try running games at 800X600 75hz
  8. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    tried and still no progress, crashed out the system again
  9. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    Do you get any kind of error message when this happens? If so please post them

    Really there are so many things it could be, its hard to troubleshoot something like this without error messages

    Here is a good guide on techspot for troubleshooting crashes
    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic44306.html

    I just noticed this at the bottom
    -if you have an APG card you can up the aperture in bios (advanced/chipset)
    Mine was set at 64mb and I upped it to 128mb and I no longer get crashes etc (contributed by: A-thru-Z)
  10. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    No error message just blacks out and then monitor turns off and acts like it is not connected, my Aperture is set to 128, should I try making it higher?

    I think it is still doing with the direct3d, like i said in a previous post, when I run the direct3d test, the first one (Direct3d 7) it shows the box, but the X and any other lettering is jarbled basically almost like a generic 8bit or lower graphic, the Direct3d 8 and 9 tests shows the DirectX X in the box cler as day, just not the first test it performs.
  11. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    It's not your video card drivers, you would be failing those test with errors if directX was unable to send info across your drivers to your hardware.

    I'm about out of ideas but just found something I will edit this post later with some links if its worth reading
  12. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    ok well for now I put my Nvidia card back in so I can play my games, I will try your new ideas out when you find some, and put the radeon back in then

    thank you again for the hardwok you have done so far, atleast I got the directx working for the card, now to the next step.

    Thank you again
  13. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    no probs, I would try the troubleshooter I posted above when you have time starting at the end of step 1. As we basically completed step 1 by installing the correct driver
  14. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    [IMG]

    I hope this helps you understand more about the Direct3d test direct3d 7 being jarbled

    I have tried the AGP size from 8X to 4X and even tried messing with the aperture size different times, and the tests are all the same
  15. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    Try going into the Catalyst Control Center

    Go the the 3d tab in the left pane

    In the right pane how do the image previews look? are they also jumbled or are they normal?
  16. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    they are normal
  17. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    I got word back from ATI stating my mobo is basically to old for this video card, so I was figuring on updating my motherboard, but trying to maintain my cpu since it was just replaced about 3 months ago. do you think an ECS KT-600 would be able to support this card for me to be able to use it. The reason I am asking is because I know ECS is a generic brand, or what would you suggest to fo mobo with AGP and still be able to run this card fully?

    Thank you
  18. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048

    Are you 100% sure that your card is AGP -> this is straight off of ATI's website

    ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 PRO - Specifications

    System Requirements:
    PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard

    400 Watt or greater power supply recommended

    1GB of system memory



    *
    If this is the case you need to follow the same instructions we did before but go look up catalyst 7.11 instead of 7.7

    And I would start a new thread asking about what motherboard would work good for what you are looking for. In a new thread more people will post suggestions and you will get a better selection of options
  19. narcussist Newcomer, in training Posts: 22

    well figuring I have had this mobo for the past 4 years, and only used AGP video in it, and if it was a PCI-E I do not think it would fit in an AGP slot, so yea I am 200% sure it is AGP
  20. Blind Dragon TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,048