Does Windows need an anti-virus?

By abbasi
Jun 2, 2013
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  1. Hello all,

    While Windows itself has some defending tools like Windows Defender, does it need to anti-virus nevertheless?
    If yes, why?

    Thanks.
  2. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,282   +280

  3. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11

    Dear jobread:
    My post wasn't about network security! It's only about the Windows (say 7) OS and it's need to an AV, not anything else.:)
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,762   +1,422

    I think your answer lies within the 4th and 5th layer of jobeard response.

    Windows Defender is a crippled excuse for an AV. Even Microsoft recommends you do not rely on Windows Defender as a full fledged AV. Windows Defender is meant only to be the most basic protection.
    learninmypc likes this.
  5. bobcat

    bobcat TechSpot Paladin Posts: 688   +67

  6. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 13,282   +280

    I gave you a reference to round out your understanding of Security - - regardless of the source of the risk. The problems are MUCH bigger than the myopic view "is A/V necessary". Per the reference cited, A/V is always reactive and a day-late (ie you are already infected). But hey, I'm glad you have all the issues under control - -

    Best wishes.
    SNGX1275 likes this.
  7. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11

    Thanks jobeard.
  8. sabrinasai

    sabrinasai Newcomer, in training

    Yup security software is must for your PC!
    This help you to protect pc from any kinds of internet malware attacks! I would suggest you to go with Comodo because it acts well in protecting your pc.
    Here is the link of AV test conducted recently in which comodo has scored 6/6 for protection,
  9. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,390   +829

    It basically depends on how many people you'd care to share your personal information with, and how long you're willing to wait for any command to execute. And then too, whether or not you're willing to pay 50 bucks from time to time, to get control of your computer back. You make the call.

    Just install "Microsoft Security Essentials". It's free, it works OK, and if it doesn't, at least you can say you tried.
  10. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TechSpot Booster Posts: 310   +62

    It is probably a good idea to have something other than Windows Defender (I use Avast), but to be honest I don't think I've received a legitimate virus alert for years (even when I had McAfee and for a brief time Norton). As long as you visit familiar web pages and rely on solid reviews before downloading from a site, you should be good.
  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,390   +829

    Well after all, "Windows Defender", is possibly the most self serving program ever released. Hey, as long as Windows still works after an attack, M$ has their basses covered.
     
  12. Elian

    Elian TechSpot Member

    The Windows Operating System is full of malware. There are about 1,000,000+ viruses that you can get on the Windows operating system. It is extremely recommended to have an antivirus on Windows. Don't use Norton, McAfee, or AVG.
  13. Blkfx1

    Blkfx1 TechSpot Addict Posts: 879   +170

    Not really....
    You advise against using these particular AV programs. But, you don't explain why? Anyways, as most have suggested, you will want something other than windows defender. I suggest taking captaincranky's advice and install MSE. The best that you can do beside installing an AV program is practicing safe browsing.
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  14. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 5,090   +222

  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,390   +829

    OK, you're obviously new to the site, and here's some constructive criticism. Please put you're brain in gear, before you start shooting off your typewriter. Nobody but you, could understand this post without, "reading between the lines", or "taking into consideration implied meanings".

    The Windows operating system is NOT, "full of malware". Millions of pieces of malware have been written to attempt to infect it. There's a big difference.

    As far as "don't use AVG" goes, that's an opinion. It happens to be the number one rated free anti-virus program at the moment. So, why wouldn't you recommend using the best software?

    (Hint, "because I said so", doesn't count).
  16. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,762   +1,422

    AVG may be now but it wasn't rated highly during 2009 for Windows 7. After a 24 hour test drive on my PC, AVG was quickly removed because of system instability. However I have since come to the conclusion AVG has corrected those issues. MSSE would have to treat me wrong before I decided to try AVG again. My decision is mostly based on how long it took AVG to correct their issues, not the fact that the issues existed.
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,390   +829

    Well to be fair, this is 2013 not 2009.

    There were some problems going from AVG free 2008, to 2009. (I think those were the 2 years involved).

    A tool they provided cleaned up the mess. As far as I'm concerned the new version was fine after the clean up.

    That said, I've never tried tro use it on Win 7.

    So, it's time for the disclaimer: "your results may vary".
  18. bobcat

    bobcat TechSpot Paladin Posts: 688   +67

    An antivirus rating depends more on who tests it and when than on the tool’s performance itself. Thus, the source of the report should be named, and be reputable and independent. Unnamed sources aren’t worth their…name.

    So, according to the latest tests on behalf of the American Consumers Association published June 2013, the ranking of the 4 major free antivirus tools is:
    AVAST
    AVIRA
    AVG
    Microsoft

    Results were similar in the previous two tests, except that the order of the top two tools was reversed. Microsoft consistently lands at the bottom with AVG just above it.

    I add that the above tests are conducted in common with European Consumers Organizations, so their publications will agree.

    But less authoritative individuals will and do disagree.
     
  19. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,390   +829

    Oh gosh, I'm silly enough to think PC World magazine is "authoritative".

    "Avira", (free version), is mostly crap, with a bunch of adware thrown in for good measure. AV "solutions" as well as some individuals, can oftentimes test well, and still not amount to much.
  20. bobcat

    bobcat TechSpot Paladin Posts: 688   +67

    PC World, first mentioned a posteriori, is to be noticed but not treated as the bible, while any publication that carries ads is not independent.

    As for the last paragraph, that’s what I meant by “less authoritative individuals will and do disagree”.
  21. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11


    It's completely wrong my friend.:)
  22. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11

  23. learninmypc

    learninmypc TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 5,090   +222

    I'm on my W7 & I have & use Avast,SpywareBlaster, SAS & M-bam & my system is clean & runs fine.
    SpywareBlaster is NOT an AV. SpywareBlaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpywareBlaster
  24. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11

    Thank you guys. I found what I was looking for.
  25. abbasi

    abbasi TechSpot Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 281   +11


    Let me clarify my post. Installing more than one AM (Anti-Malware) is not a right work in effect. Thanks anyway.:)
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