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Downloading TV shows illegal? (in the US)

  1. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    Perhaps But.....

    That would cause everything to be more restrictive. If fact it already has. In The European Union, those countries who had more liberal copyright laws were forced to tighten them to align themselves with the rest of the EU when the Digital Millenium Copyright Act was enacted.
     
  2. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    Yeah But......

    It is easy to argue that the purest form of human creativity is that which is undertaken without the idea of compensation. It would also end the need for copyright legislation, Since what you don't expect to be compensated for can't technically be stolen from you. "I did it because I can, And now I'll share it with the rest of you without charge"! So if all of you altruists go through life with this philosophy, then you will have earned the right to take the point of view that copying is not stealing, provided of course, that you can come up with something worth stealing, er copying.
     
  3. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,909

    Don't we have another thread on a similar topic somewhere in this forum?
     
  4. sbgsus

    sbgsus TS Rookie Posts: 35

    I figure... you can record tv (essentially making a copy) as much as you like...

    so I guess it isnt illegal. Perhaps uploading it online could be less legit, but downloading is alright I would think
     
  5. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,438

    Well... Recording TV is pretty easy today, If you're saying recording TV is illegal, then the people who made Tivo are going to be sued BIG TIME!!! :haha:

    I have a ATI TV Wonder which lets me record TV shows that I like ( like the documentaries on History / National Geographic Channel or some shows on Cartoon Network :D ) and if recording is illegal, then anyone who owns that card will be arrested and thrown in prison for recording their favorite episode of The Simpsons or something :|
     
  6. sbgsus

    sbgsus TS Rookie Posts: 35


    I was saying it CANT be illegal... :p


    cos stuff like tivo and dvd recorders would not be sold o_O
     
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    This Reply Has Been aLong Time Coming.....So, If anyone still cares........

    When a television or radio station decides to broadcast any material, the artist, owner, producer, distributer, whoever, has already been compensated for the "works", consequently they (the stations) are, to the extent to which it applies to royalties, the end user. They have initiated the "download", so to speak. The issue of taping off-air broadcasting was settled decades ago, and although some in the industry would like a "do over" on that, it still resides under a "fair use" doctrine. Just don't attempt to re-re-broadcast it, for any reason.

    The silliness of threads like this comes into play when you try to carry this "fair use" doctrine into realms where it was never intended to go, and certainly can't apply.

    If you beg, borrow, or steal an episode of of a TV show and make it available on the internet, you breech the fair use doctrine, since you aren't the original purchaser of the work. Only the original purchaser, (the TV or radio station), has the right to initiate the "download", the original broadcast.

    Certain copy protections are built into DVRs (TIVO and the like) in an attempt to prevent the migration of copyrighted material beyond the machine in question, if not to the owner/artist/studio's complete satisfaction, at least to the extent of legal compliance.

    The best argument against copyright legislation is this one; when you ,I, or anyone outside the entertainment industry goes to work, whether it's picking up trash or building rockets to the moon, we get paid on Friday and that's the end of it. Like that's gonna fly.

    A store bought DVD recorder WON'T copy a protected source, and it's illegal to modify it to do so. But it certainly can be used for creating a DVD from an off air broadcast.

    This is certainly a contentious issue and I get the feeling the entertainment industry would like you to give them royalties for showing the new DVD you just purchased to the rest of your family. This seems like asking for more than you can hope to get in an attempt to get at least as much as you actually expect.

    Probably the best course of action with copyrighted materials is this; use good judgment, employ an ethical standard of fair play and decency. Be vigilant and active in confronting new methods of DRM, learn which of your rights are being usurped. Try not to patronize companies which are leading the charge against fair use, Sony comes immediately to mind. "I don't care how many rootkit trojans they put in my computer I'm going to buy a PS-3"! Do you see how contra-productive that sounds?

    Remember, expecting unfettered reuse of copyrighted materials is asking far more than you can ever expect to achieve. The only thing you will accomplish is pissing off their corporate lawyers. They have the time, money, legislation and backing to make your life miserable, all we have is each other.

    Remember, "discretion is the better part of valor".
     
  8. Disturbed88

    Disturbed88 TS Rookie Posts: 50

    this is actually a question i have been wondering on for a while as i live in australia i miss out on alot of good shows due to not having foxtel and having crappy tv reception(i only have 2 channels out of 5) so i have to download alot of tv shows i want to watch.being that they are recorded off tv, i do remember a couple of years ago they finally made it legal to record things off tv.so wouldnt it make sense that if its recorded off tv it would be allowed to be posted on the internet for free-sharing? forgive me for coming into this but i was browsing while bored and i had been wondering, also forgive me if this has been answered or exlained, been awake for way too long lol
     


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