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England riots: Government mulls social media controls

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Archean, Aug 11, 2011.

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  1. Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,515   +36

    One of the problems we have is that the only stories you hear about welfare in this country, are the bad ones: people spounging off the state mostly. You can be sure that 95% of all welfare stories in the media are bad, yet the bad won't account for even 5% of the overall people on welfare.

    The government see this as a perfect play to cut welfare, tighten the lines, and put more walls in the way for people who really could do with that helping hand. Now it seems, if you don't look sick, you're not sick, yet this is crap, and behind the scenes the government know it. They actually don't trust the word of your GP anymore, they send round one of their own "suits" to make you jump through hoops. For people with Bi-polar, depression or anxiety, these times are really hard now.

    On the riots, I agree with Leeky; It's just mindless thugs getting in on the thrill, getting in on the free TVs and clothes. At first it might have been about something, but then it was just about stealing. They've even been on the news admitting it straight up.

    What's sad, is that alot of them will get away with it, and all them people who had their lives ruined (some without insurance) will just have to fork out for the damage, or spend a good week cleaning the mess up. Of course it's different for the familys of those who's sons were killed, they'll be spending their whole life living with that.
  2. Leeky TechSpot Moderator Posts: 4,344   +59

    Our PM said in the house of Common's earlier today that it is being classed as a riot and therefore even uninsured people will be compensated for damages caused.

    Doesn't make up for those who will suffer the lifelong anguish of losing a loved one though. I have to say I got very emotional listening to the father of a children hit (and killed) in Birmingham last night. Having revived his son, to then lose him later on again in Hospital, he had the courage to stand up and demand the violence stop. He single handedly stopped all the rioting there with his words.

    I feel for everyone that has lost at the hands of these mindless yobs. :(
  3. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

    I think loosing a child is the worst thing in life for any parent to live with.

    At least he got one thing right then.

    I hope they catch most of them (if not all), and get them convicted, only serves them right. What was said that a policeman who arrested one of these rioters told a reporter that the person was a teacher, not someone I was expecting to be part of this looting spree.

    Sound familiar doesn't it (just like in US). I don't know much about UK, but the insurance model which is adopted by US totally suites the insurance companies, the doctors which these companies hires are specially trained to 'deny' claims in such way which would not hold them accountable, and off course boost 'the bottom line'. I used to deal with AIG as my employer too provide us with similar health insurance package, and during 3 or so years we worked with them, the successful claim ratio was around 25-30%. Anyway, long and the short of it we gave them a pretty nice kick on the *** .....

    Anyway the sad thing is your current crop of politicians mostly include right wing crooks who just like their US cousins would rather serve their business 'friends' instead of serve the people who actually elected them.
  4. matrix86 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 761

    Here's what irks me...saw this on the news. Some guy had gotten knocked down during a riot. A group of other guys came over to help him up and check on him. "Aww, that was nice" you may be thinking. But wait...while they were helping him up, another guy in the group was taking the guy's wallet out of his backpack. Once he got the wallet, the group just left. Poor kid saw it but there wasn't anything he could do...just him against 5 or 6 other guys. The guy who got the wallet was walking away holding it up in the air in a "oh yeah, check me out, I just stole this guy's wallet" type of manner. Made me sick.
  5. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,783   +279

    Observing humanity as a whole, has completely turned me off to it as a rule.
  6. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

     
  7. Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,515   +36

    The government's just brought in a US "top cop" to try and stem our gang culture.

    Talk about a pie in the face.
  8. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

    A US cop? Hell they can't control their own country's gangs, let alone help any one else. :rolleyes:

    Edit:
    Just wanted to share this.
  9. I linked that exact video earlier in this thread. It is very frustrating to watch. It makes me want to go vigilante on their sorry arses. Too bad that kid wasn't packing a weapon instead of a wallet. Maybe he would have gotten to play Duck Hunt with all of those chumps.


    The crime rate in the U.S. is supposed to be one of the worst, if not THE worst, in the world.


    This is what I am saying about the monetary system. Everything is oligarchical when money is your god, and let's face it, money is the most prevalent idol on the face of the globe today. The monetary system is nothing more than a slightly advanced version of the original food chain model nature developed for us millions of years ago.

    We cannot expect decent behavior out of the majority of people when they are being bombarded with data that reveals to them their own financial inadequacy on a daily basis. Those lacking a better moral example are bound to become criminals.
  10. matrix86 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 761

    Oh, sorry about that. I didn't realize it was a link. And I see that Leeky also said something about it, just didn't realize it was the same thing. But hey, now I know that a backback is called a rucksack over in that territory, lol. Learn something new every day :p
  11. Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,515   +36

    The guy who robbed that kid has been arrested and put in front of the courts, so good news there.
  12. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

    Cool, I hope that justice will be done, not only in this case but also involving all the other looters.
  13. No problem. I was just putting the reference in there for others.


    GOOD. I say we strip him down, hang him upside down by his big toes and balls, and proceed to whip him with long strips of wet bamboo.
  14. Leeky TechSpot Moderator Posts: 4,344   +59

    Shooting him would be better. :haha:
  15. H3llion TechSpot Paladin Posts: 611   +24

    No, that would do him a favour.

    I say SLOW AND PAINFUL!
  16. Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,515   +36

    What kind of parties have you been going to? :haha:

    But yeah, he'll most likely be made an example of considering he's now being viewed as a staple of what's wrong with British society.

    Holy smokes, I wouldn't like to live under your rule; The death sentence for stealing? Yikes! :D
  17. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

    I would rather feed him to some hungry Loins, swift but painful :p
  18. Leeky TechSpot Moderator Posts: 4,344   +59

    The manner in which he did it was an absolute disgrace. Only a rapist, murderer, or sex offender is worse in my books.

    But yeah, in reality its a harsh punishment... Maybe a proper hiding would be more suitable.
  19. Whilst I fantasize about the methods employed by Di Renjie, logically I maintain the more civic views of one Carl Sagan. I cannot help but want to hurt him after seeing him behave as he did on that video, though I aspire to the contrary.

    If I were in charge of his remuneration he would be thoroughly taught to emulate something or someone much more dignified, nothing more. If he proved incapable he would be segregated from society by whatever means deemed fair, ethical, and practical. I would not punish for the sake of my own satisfaction, if I could provide the will to deny my temptation. The scales of justice are blind and foolish at best. I think practicality is more sane for an attempt at a functional society, no matter how difficult the impulse toward a retributive affair.

    I'll shush now. :blush:
  20. Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,515   +36

    I'll settle for a stiff prison sentence (in which he'll probably get a good hiding anyway). After all, this isn't Iraq or Iran.