first computer fried, so looking into a custom built one

By LxTrix
Jan 14, 2007
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  1. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,438   +282

    Stay with your Orleans. The Venice is an older processor and uses more power, it also is not avaiable in AM2.
  2. mahesh_2825

    mahesh_2825 Newcomer, in training

    BCP4 : 00000000 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 2_0 Product : 256_1
  3. foozy

    foozy Newcomer, in training Posts: 267

    Athlons run really cool at stock.. One CPU fan and one case fan should be plenty for you - just watch out for dust accumulation, and make sure you install the heatsink right. EDIT: I forgot about the GPU, maybe another fan for that?

    I can't recall if i've ever used the Gigabyte version of that board, but it looks nice and solid - and for under 100 bucks, too!

    I tend to be wary about Sunbeams, but that one looks alright.

    As far as cases, Foxconn makes a solid inexpensive model. It isn't pretty, but it gets the job done. Honestly besides power supplies that come with them, i've never heard of "bad" cases. Ugly, bulky, and cramped, maybe, but never so bad that it couldn't be managed with.
  4. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

    What if instead of that graphics card i got a

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) Windsor 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103733
    $119

    instead of that graphics card and wait a few months and get one then, that way i could save some money and put it to something i'd have around longer, good trade off? I like that case, just wish it were black, would it provide suffcient cooling or would i have to buy a fan? Really though i dont want my computer to get messed up so being told what to get helps allot, thanks everyone.
  5. foozy

    foozy Newcomer, in training Posts: 267

    You probably said this already, but do you intend to play games? Honestly onboard video is fine for everything except games.
  6. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    The X2 3800+ is basically a dual-core 3200+. If you're truly and really on a budget I suggest you stay with a lower processor. And trust me, the 2800+ "Sempron" really and truly looks like a slow piece of nothingness - but it IS fast. When overclocked to 2.2GHz (which was done with ease on stock cooling) it BEATS my X2 3800+ (which is basically the 3200+ except with 2 cores). The only downside is that it has less cache, but for my games and windows it was faster than my X2 3800+. Another thing is you can get a 3000+ Sempron with more cache (same clock speed) for ~10$ more. Given that you have the money though, a 3200+ would be a good choice.

    I'm not too sure about the Sunbeam powersupply though. It looks good on the outside but I'm not sure of it's performance (and I've never heard of Sunbeam...). For ~4$ more you can get a good 450W FSP Group PSU. But for 40$ you can get a good 400W (the one I originally suggested) - and I think 400W for your system (and budget) would be the best.

    As a case, any case can do. Just don't use the included PSU (except for a few exceptions from Antec).
  7. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

    So pretty much go back to your power supply, stick with the graphics card and go wtih the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ or the Sempron? Really though anytone want to tell me which case i should buy, link me? Perferrably a black one.
  8. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Well if you stick to the PSU I said (which, like I said, is GREAT for your system) and stick with the 3200+, you'll save 10$ - which added to you 40$ max on the case is... 50$ - and for 50$, you can get an awesome cooler master case (trust me, it is AWESOME - I'm using for my gaming rig). AWESOME ventilation, AWESOME looks, VERY roomy, AWESOME construction. Here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...turion 5&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

    You wanna look at the first 3 and choose whichever one you like the most. The last 2 are simply the same cases except with an included powersupply, which you don't need.
  9. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

    So at long last, my machine.....

    Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068
    $50

    Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
    $75

    CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103637
    $76

    PSU - FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN, RoHS, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, 20+ 4 pin, PCI Express, 400W Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104953
    $42

    RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220088
    $77

    Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144415
    $53

    GPU - Leadtek PX7600GS TDH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814122002
    $100


    Is it complete? is there anything i should know now before ordering? is there a certain part i need to get an extended warranty? will ineed to buy anything more? tell me anything i need to know please.

    Except it really sucks i missed out on that sale on that ram and now its sold out so which of these should i get?

    Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5/1G
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134045
    $70

    CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146580
    $75

    Also don't know if two sticks is better then one, hah.

    Patriot Signature 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PSD21G667K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220066
    $73

    Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 400 (PC2 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model KVR400D2N3K2/1G
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144166
    $71

    I know those are slower but i cant afford one of the same speed as the one i wanted. I could get a 512mb with the same speed. It would savve me some money.

    Kingston 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5/512
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134115
    $63

    CORSAIR XMS2 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model CM2X512A-6400
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145567
    $60

    So thoughts?
  10. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Hmm... I would say go with the 1 stick of Corsair ValueSelect 1GB, DDR2 667. First of all, it's Corsair! Second, their ValueSelect line is amazing, they're awesome modules without a cool-looking heatspreader and a "value" sticker stuck to them. Third, DDR2 667 is pretty good.

    The 2 patriot signature series sticks looks extremely good on paper (pixels?), but I'm not sure of their quality. Especially after those reviews on newegg.

    By the way, 2 sticks is better then 1 as they would run in dual-channel and give more bandwidth.
  11. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

     
  12. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

  13. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

    Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068
    $50

    Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
    $75

    CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103637
    $76

    PSU - FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN, RoHS, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, 20+ 4 pin, PCI Express, 400W Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104953
    $42

    RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220088
    $80

    Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144415
    $53

    GPU - Leadtek PX7600GS TDH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814122002
    $100

    That puts it at $473.94. So apparently the orignal ram i wanted is back in stock so i'm sticking to this. Now before i hit purchase is there anything i should be for-warned about? Is there a particular part i should get the extended warranty? Anything i need to know now so i dont get any surprise things i have to buy or anything like that?
  14. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,438   +282

    Artic Silver if you don't trust the stock thermal pad.
  15. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

  16. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,438   +282

  17. agi_shi

    agi_shi Newcomer, in training Posts: 507

    Don't get that card, you wanna stay in the 7600/1600 range of cards. Instead, stick with your 7600GS and downgrade your processor to the 3000+. It's 200MHz slower, but 10$ less - the 10$ that will save you from your over-budgeting. If you're that desperate, you can OC your 3000+ to 3200+ or maybe even beyond. Same thing with me, got an X2 3800+ (lowest of the X2 line) and overclocked it to just 50MHz short of the 5600+.
  18. LxTrix

    LxTrix TechSpot Member Topic Starter Posts: 92

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