first computer fried, so looking into a custom built one

Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
$75

CPU - AMD Sempron 64 2800+ Manila 1.6GHz 128KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819104301
$50

PSU - FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN, RoHS, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, 20+ 4 pin, PCI Express, 400W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104953
$42

RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220088
$77

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144415
$53

Subtotal - $295.96
Total - $309.59

This is the setup I’m looking at. I still need a micro atx compatible case and a graphics card. My limit is $450ish.

If you really think so, then why do it in the first place?

Anyway, LxTrix for the case, just pick something that costs more than $15 and that you think looks cool. And make sure it has a lot of fan ports. As long as you don't use the included PSU, the case doesn't matter much. And as for the video card, try a 7600GT. They aren't very expensive these days.

Well should i just use that rosewell case? And i don't know what a 7600GT is, but i'll attempt to look into it. And a freind said i should spend more for a better cpu so hows this?

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103637
$76

Will it work with the motherboard and everything else?

Yes, that CPU will work with the motherboard, and I have that same CPU and I'm pleased with it. And pretty much any case in the world would be fine as long as you don't use the included PSU.

Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
$75

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103637
$76

PSU - Sunbeam NUUO SUNNU450-US-BK ATX12V / EPS12V 450W Power Supply 100-120V CE, UL (CUL), TUV, CB, FCC, FIMKO, SEMKO, DEMKO, NEMKO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817709002
$55

RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220088
$77

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144415
$53

GPU - Leadtek PX7600GS TDH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814122002
$100

That comes up to $452.78. Now i just need a case. Can someone suggest a few around $40 or less. I don't know what kind of fan support i'm looking for to make sure its cool enough. I'm really pushing my limit. I can only spend $40 or less on a case unless i downgrade something. Oh and your cpu is a Venice and mine says Orleans, whats the difference? should i try and find the one you have?

BCP4 : 00000000 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 2_0 Product : 256_1

Athlons run really cool at stock.. One CPU fan and one case fan should be plenty for you - just watch out for dust accumulation, and make sure you install the heatsink right. EDIT: I forgot about the GPU, maybe another fan for that?

I can't recall if i've ever used the Gigabyte version of that board, but it looks nice and solid - and for under 100 bucks, too!

I tend to be wary about Sunbeams, but that one looks alright.

As far as cases, Foxconn makes a solid inexpensive model. It isn't pretty, but it gets the job done. Honestly besides power supplies that come with them, i've never heard of "bad" cases. Ugly, bulky, and cramped, maybe, but never so bad that it couldn't be managed with.

What if instead of that graphics card i got a

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) Windsor 2.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103733
$119

instead of that graphics card and wait a few months and get one then, that way i could save some money and put it to something i'd have around longer, good trade off? I like that case, just wish it were black, would it provide suffcient cooling or would i have to buy a fan? Really though i dont want my computer to get messed up so being told what to get helps allot, thanks everyone.

You probably said this already, but do you intend to play games? Honestly onboard video is fine for everything except games.

The X2 3800+ is basically a dual-core 3200+. If you're truly and really on a budget I suggest you stay with a lower processor. And trust me, the 2800+ "Sempron" really and truly looks like a slow piece of nothingness - but it IS fast. When overclocked to 2.2GHz (which was done with ease on stock cooling) it BEATS my X2 3800+ (which is basically the 3200+ except with 2 cores). The only downside is that it has less cache, but for my games and windows it was faster than my X2 3800+. Another thing is you can get a 3000+ Sempron with more cache (same clock speed) for ~10$ more. Given that you have the money though, a 3200+ would be a good choice.

I'm not too sure about the Sunbeam powersupply though. It looks good on the outside but I'm not sure of it's performance (and I've never heard of Sunbeam...). For ~4$ more you can get a good 450W FSP Group PSU. But for 40$ you can get a good 400W (the one I originally suggested) - and I think 400W for your system (and budget) would be the best.

As a case, any case can do. Just don't use the included PSU (except for a few exceptions from Antec).

So pretty much go back to your power supply, stick with the graphics card and go wtih the AMD Athlon 64 3200+ or the Sempron? Really though anytone want to tell me which case i should buy, link me? Perferrably a black one.

Well if you stick to the PSU I said (which, like I said, is GREAT for your system) and stick with the 3200+, you'll save 10$ - which added to you 40$ max on the case is... 50$ - and for 50$, you can get an awesome cooler master case (trust me, it is AWESOME - I'm using for my gaming rig). AWESOME ventilation, AWESOME looks, VERY roomy, AWESOME construction. Here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...turion 5&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

You wanna look at the first 3 and choose whichever one you like the most. The last 2 are simply the same cases except with an included powersupply, which you don't need.

So at long last, my machine.....

Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068
$50

Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
$75

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103637
$76

PSU - FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN, RoHS, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, 20+ 4 pin, PCI Express, 400W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104953
$42

RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220088
$77

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144415
$53

GPU - Leadtek PX7600GS TDH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814122002
$100


Is it complete? is there anything i should know now before ordering? is there a certain part i need to get an extended warranty? will ineed to buy anything more? tell me anything i need to know please.

Except it really sucks i missed out on that sale on that ram and now its sold out so which of these should i get?

Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2N5/1G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134045
$70

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model VS1GB667D2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146580
$75

Also don't know if two sticks is better then one, hah.

Patriot Signature 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PSD21G667K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220066
$73

Kingston ValueRAM 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 400 (PC2 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model KVR400D2N3K2/1G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144166
$71

I know those are slower but i cant afford one of the same speed as the one i wanted. I could get a 512mb with the same speed. It would savve me some money.

Kingston 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5/512
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134115
$63

CORSAIR XMS2 512MB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model CM2X512A-6400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145567
$60

So thoughts?

Hmm... I would say go with the 1 stick of Corsair ValueSelect 1GB, DDR2 667. First of all, it's Corsair! Second, their ValueSelect line is amazing, they're awesome modules without a cool-looking heatspreader and a "value" sticker stuck to them. Third, DDR2 667 is pretty good.

The 2 patriot signature series sticks looks extremely good on paper (pixels?), but I'm not sure of their quality. Especially after those reviews on newegg.

By the way, 2 sticks is better then 1 as they would run in dual-channel and give more bandwidth.

Alright so would this be even better?

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145568
$76

Yes, that would be excellent.

Case - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119068
$50

Mother Board - GIGABYTE GA-M61PM-S2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128029
$75

CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103637
$76

PSU - FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX400-PN, RoHS, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, 20+ 4 pin, PCI Express, 400W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104953
$42

RAM - Patriot 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220088
$80

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144415
$53

GPU - Leadtek PX7600GS TDH GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814122002
$100

That puts it at $473.94. So apparently the orignal ram i wanted is back in stock so i'm sticking to this. Now before i hit purchase is there anything i should be for-warned about? Is there a particular part i should get the extended warranty? Anything i need to know now so i dont get any surprise things i have to buy or anything like that?

Well i ran over my $500 limit. The shipping is like $31. So i think i'm going to get a cheaper video card.

Is this one compatable?

SAPPHIRE 100192L Radeon X1050 256MB 128-bit DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102078
$55

Heres what i was going for:

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio...sp?WishListNumber=5007846&WishListTitle=My PC

And whats Artic Silver?