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First ever water cooling project

By Burty117
Jan 2, 2013
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  1. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    Yeah, G1/4. Just grab a pen and paper and write down what angles you are going to need as you go. It sucks to be one fitting short LOL Try to avoid as many 90 degree turns as you can obviously.
    Don't forget a silver coil!
     
  2. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    Silver Coil?!
     
  3. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    Silver coil (kill Coil) is just a thin piece of pure silver coiled up that you drop into the system (reservoir) The silver acts as an anti organic and keeps algae etc from growing in your system. It is an anti-microbial because even pure distilled water will get a bit of organic material in it, and thats all it takes for your loop to eventually look like an unkempt aquarium.
    [​IMG] http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...r_Tubing_Reservoir_Strip.html?tl=g30c103s1676

    There are a few ways to do it like the coil or a silver treated plug.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    Aaahhh! cool, another to add to the list! ;)
     
  5. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    Hey Burty. I have a brand new feser xchanger 360 rad sitting around. Also some other water cooling stuff I never used. I'm currently using 3x360 rads and I bought 4 of them 2 years ago.

    IF you haven't purchased your rad yet you can pick mine up for a pretty good price. I'd even throw in a few compression fittings, coolant anti fungal additives and tube clamps.

    *sigh,* sorry I got to the thread late. I clearly have too much stuff sitting around.
     
  6. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    Hey T, I wondering if you were going to find your way here :)
    Don't happen to have a pair of bitspower 30 and or 60 degree do you?
     
  7. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    Sorry I don't. I got rid of a bag og 60's last year, I remember asking you but at the time I suppose you didnt know what you needed.
     
  8. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    How about a 240mm rad? or pump?
     
  9. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    Red you're killing me, I literally gave away a swiftech mcp pump 2 months ago, variable speed and all.

    Going to see if my brother is still using my feser 240, if not its yours.
     
  10. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    Thanks for the offer LinkedKube, but I've got my heart set on my setup now xD

    Red, I'll post in a couple of hours my final set of components here, was wondering if you would be kind enough to check through them to see if they are all compatible :)
     
  11. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    LOL, my timing has been off lately.
     
     
  12. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    OK here it goes!

    Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II Ultra Tower
    Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Formula
    CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K
    RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x 4GB 8-8-8-27 1600MHz
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-E
    GPU: MSI GeForce N680GTX Lightning
    PSU: Corsair Professional Series Gold AX 750W Modular
    Corsair Braided Cables (Red)
    Pioneer Bluray reader/writer
    SSD: OCZ Vector 256GB
    HDD: 1TB Western Digital VelociRaptor
    HDD: 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black

    Water-Cooling Loop:
    Triple Radiator at top - Alphacool NexXxoS XT45
    Double Radiator Bottom - Alphacool NexXxoS XT45

    CPU Block - Koolance 380i
    GPU Block - EK-FC680 GTX Lightning

    Fans:
    Cooler Master Excalibur 120mm 3 for the triple and 2 for the double
    Noctua NF-S12B FLX & NF-A14 FLX for replacing case fans (3 overall)

    Reservoir/Pump - XSPC D5 Dual Bay including D5 Pump

    Tubing - XSPC HighFlex Hose 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD, 2m Clear

    Fittings:
    Phobya 68142 hose clamp spring 19-22mm Black - for clamping the hose to the water cooling on the motherboard
    Bitspower 1/4" BSPP - 1/2" ID - 3/4" OD Rotary 45 Degree Compression Matte Black (x6)
    Bitspower G1/4 Matte Black Duel Rotary 90-degree Compression Fitting (x6)
    Bitspower BP-MBCPF-CC5 G1/4" Matte Black Compression Fitting CC5 for ID 1/2" OD 3/4" Tubing
    Bitspower BP-MBTMB Matte Black T-Block & Bitspower BP-MBWP-C06 1/4" BSPP Blank Fitting Matte Black
    T-Block and Blanking plate to go to the bottom of the loop somewhere as a draining point

    Additive: Mayhems Fine Silver Kill Coil

    Coolant: Pure Distilled Water (don't no id Deionized water would be better?)

    I went for Noctua Case Fans as I hear they are silent and I cannot get hold of any Cougar fans in the UK, I also plan to use the cases built in fan controller for the time being to control the fan speeds until I decide on what to control them with at a later date.
    since all my 5.25 inch bays are all taken up I guess I'll need to go looking for an alternative.

    I will be buying the Case first and I may change the triple radiator for a double depending on what clearance there is for the bluray drive as I would like this at the top then the reservoir taking the additional 2 slots.

    I have picked out those Fittings as I believe they should fit all the equipment listed and I'm not sure on placement of everything just yet so I may as well buy a good 6-12 of everything just so when it comes to fitting it all together I know I'll have some spares.

    If you think everything on this list should be compatible then I will go ahead and purchase pretty much all of it in march roughly, I may end up though buying the case, a few bits such as fans and CD drive in March then the following 2 months after buy the rest which should give me time looking at the case deciding where I want all the water cooling to go.

    I will also post a build log on Techspot, I've never done a build like this before so I may as well do a build log since I've never done one before :p

    Anyway, please let me know if you feel certain things would be incompatible or anything, or if you think anything needs re-jiggling or what not, your advice has been crucial to me choosing these parts and if you sign to say its good to go then it'll give me the confidence to really go ahead with it :)
     
  13. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    A couple things,
    1) don't use De-ionized water. De-ionized means that ions are missing. as soon as you add it to the system it starts taking them back from your system. (from the metal in the rads) Just stick with distilled water and your silver coil :)
    2) make sure your Blu-ray player is 6-3/4" or less or the top 360 rad will keep it from going all the way in to the bay.
    3) I would push/pull the bottom 240mm rad, you have more than enough room. I just added a second 240mm down there so you are def good on room.
    4) This is just my personal preference: the AX750W will work fine, but with a GTX 680, an OC'd 3770, pump etc. For future considerations I would bump the PSU up a bit. I always find the upgrade bug gets to me and 300w now is cheaper than a new PSU down the road ( that is 100% my preference and experience :)
    4a) The fittings are difficult to comment on because I don't know how you want to route things, but it looks like you have it covered. Just remember to include as few 90 degree intersections as possible.
    5) You may want to consider a coloured tubing. I know they all say they don't haze, but after time, they all do.
    6) I don't see any TIM on there. A word on that. the 370 & 380 blocks make excellent contact and are very non TIM dependent so don't spend a bunch on the likes if indigo extreme, you wont see a difference. I get excellent results with Arctic Silver Ceramique 2

    ****** call the Cosmos 2 supplier and ask if they are selling the models with the new fan controller/top assembly ( The green PCB or the Black PCB*****

    Looks good, can't wait to see it! :)

    Greg...
     
  14. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    I'll put this here since the only people on the site that care about water cooling is in this thread.

    I have some things to GIVE away!

    tube camps, uv blue.
    anti microbial solution
    1/4 silver compression fittings
    thermaltake high pressure led blue fans(3x120mm)


    gtz waterblock 1336 bracket.

    Can't think of what else is in my box of goodies. Taking request for 12 hours.

    ~Greg I haven't forgotten about your request.
     
  15. nik11105

    nik11105 TS Enthusiast Posts: 104

    Hey Linked, do you mind give me that water block ;) :p
     
  16. nik11105

    nik11105 TS Enthusiast Posts: 104

    Woops never mind I forgot that the gtz1336 is for socket 775 xD
     
  17. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    The gtz is 775 native, but I have the 1336 bracket for it.
     
  18. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    If you call it you can have it, give me an address and pay for the shipping, that is all.
     
  19. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    Thanks Red, I hadn't thought of TIM actually?
    I will definitely use distilled then! don't want all that mess!
    I thought the Bluray player might be a bit of a nightmare, I will check dimensions :)
    I am tempted actually to go for an 850watt power supply actually, glad you mentioned that so I will up the anti a little it ;)
    Yeah fittings are difficult so I'll take them as I go.
    I will go for red tubing I think, with the motherboard theme etc... it should look pretty nice.

    In regards to the Cosmos 2 fan controller update, I was wondering what the update adds? was there an issue with the older ones?

    thanks for all your advice again, really appreciate it, I actually managed to convince another friend to go water cooling and using your advice I sounded like an expert xD

    I'll point them to this thread though so they know its you!
     
  20. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,908   +91

    The old fan controller uses the green PCB. IT had some problems with fan compatibility and some LED fans. The new style with the black PCB resolves this. I would think anything they are shipping has the new design, but if not, they will send you a complete new top assembly. I can direct you on how to order that if necessary.
    I got the old style obviously because I reviewed the Cosmos 2 for OCC and got one of the first units, and got the new unit in about a week.

    *** I was just reminded that the upgrade is only available in north America. Lucky you, I have an extra one. Have a peek under the hood when you get the unit and see which you have. I have a sneaking suspicion you are going to get the old style
    If you do, I will send you the correct one.


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  21. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    Thanks Red!

    Yeah I will speak to the company (Scan.co.uk) to see if they are shipping the new ones, from what I've read they have been since July 2012 in america? would be really annoying if the UK got missed out!

    But in any case, I'm quite lucky you have one spare! I won't be purchasing this case though until 20th of March 2013 so I've got a good 2 months and 6 days remaining! in that time though I plan on getting rid of all my debts (credit card, family & friends) as I've moved back in with my parents for a bit since living on your own in the UK seems to be the most expensive thing on this planet currently, even renting the smallest crappiest flat seems to cost a fortune at the moment.

    but no matter, because that gives me (as of March anyway) about £700 playing money each month for this PC! since my plan is to have it all done by august I should easily achieve that.

    Also as of March we should be getting Fibre broadband as well so my parents will finally get off AOL -_-
    I didn't think AOL was still alive...
     
  22. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 964   +49

    Man... I was thinking on going with a pair of AIO water cooling kits (one for CPU and one for the GPU) and shoe horn them into a Silverstone Temjin TJ08B-E... but that triple rad with the CCFL lighting looks so good that it makes me want to reconsider the small case kick I've been on for the last couple years.
     
  23. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    Hmm, I have a similar setup now, watercooled i7-3770K & GTX680. Even the same PSU - AX750. I measured the power with a watt meter some time ago and under load my system was pulling less than 400W, so I'm not going to upgrade my PSU even if I add another 680.

    I got the GPU block a couple of days ago and had to redo some of the tubing.

    I'm using all EK - H3O 360 HFX kit with FC680 block.

    The only minor complaint I have about this is the slight rattling from the pump.
     
  24. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,524   +324

    That is a much cheaper way of doing things xD how well does it work temperature wise? and did you need to buy anything else with the kit to get it all hooked up? also, would that kit allow a D3 pump to be added instead?
     
  25. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    On load GPU never goes above 40°C, CPU stays below 50°C. They're in a single loop (obviously) with GPU first. I bought some additional tubing from a local hardware store, they only had 14/10mm ("12/10 would only leave it 1mm thick, it's too weak" said the clerk - I didn't say what it was for). Enough tubing to put the radiator about a meter away from the computer :) Also a couple of extra G1/4" fittings. I suppose your pump would work too since it has the same threading (G1/4").
     


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