So just recap on everything: power button led comes on, system will be given power without the cpu power connection put in(does not post but power actually runs through the motherboard and powers the fans and optical drive and hard drive), Phase Led 1 is on, I don't know if the others are supposed to be on, Both debug leds are off which means according to the manual that there is a cpu/chipset problem, standoff is not touching the back of the motherboard(any more), I have used new thermal compound for the cpu fan and cpu and that did not solve the problem, motherboard does not beep at all, hard drive leds do not come on and holding down the power button on the front for 4 or more seconds does not shut down the system, I have to use the power switch in the back.