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Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Matthew, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,801   +25


    LOL i don't doubt that for a second, ever heard his radio show?
  2. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,956   +356

    Don't laugh, but I didn't know he had a radio show.

    Signed, sheltered in Southeast Pennsylvania.
  3. Somian Newcomer, in training

    can you name one of these distributions, please? I have tried ubuntu 8.04 and openSuSE 11.1 on my desktop pc and my laptop and didn't even manage to install all the necessary device drivers. Either because there are none, or because I had to type dozens of cryptic console commands to install them. Very user friendly...
    There is an alternative to windows and it's called mac os X.
  4. Somian Newcomer, in training

    (hm sry quote- in quote doesn't work)
  5. Darkshadoe TechSpot Maniac Posts: 411   +47

    If the Linux community would get off their collective a$$es and start making competitive programs that people would want at a cheaper price or for free as they do now, Microsoft and Apple would have to follow suit. There are only a few out there now. How many versions of Tetris do we really need? The Linux community needs to drop their "L33t N3rd" mentality and focus on becoming a real threat to the OS monopolies. Gaming being one of their top priorities. Why write a program that runs a competitor's software when you have the means to make your own?
  6. JDoors Newcomer, in training Posts: 62

    Do they actually believe a letter might sway a company to ditch Windows? No way. Like other groups addicted to or obsessed with a "cause," they are just stirring the pot to increase their visibility. I guess if it gets the attention of others who are susceptible to and willing to join them it's worth their time and money (money from other cult members and hangers-on, which is then used exclusively for recruiting even MORE cult members ...).
     
  7. FREEDOM IS: the freedom of pick any operating system. Like... let's say, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Solaris, or even any of the Microsoft's. So... what's the deal? the guys at MS did a good job with Windows 7, why Stallman is so worried about?
  8. maestromasada Newcomer, in training Posts: 97

    THE "EIGHT" SINS OF THE OPEN SOFTWARE
    1. Education: my vga card never worked with earlier distro version, yeath they have improved now but I'm scare to death everytime I change the resolution on Mandriva during installation: if it goes blank this is it, you have to re-install again.
    2.DRM; Never, ever got a video movie playing on linux, and guess what... you right, sound driver don't work, or when it does freezes the system. Happens with SUSE and RedHat on a Dell D400.
    3.Security; yeath, so secure I can't even access my own files, so secure that it takes you half an hour to install a new version of flash player!!
    4.Monopoly; diversity, so confusing! mandrake, turbolinux, madriva, suse, which one of them work? turn it on and work??? And waht about Dreamwever CSx? can't be install on Linux! ?With me Wine never worked.
    5.standards. i lose them all. Let me just bust all my furstraxion with linux and relatives in this lovely forum. It could be a good OS, but it isn't, and annoys me when people say:"" Oh, you crap M$, be cool and swap to Linux"! What for?? Who paid is in rest! = I paid for M$ so no worries with capabilities.
    6.Lock in/out = same applies to linux: if I change my pst file to KMail, I am now lock in with KMail, a software free, cool, but with no support and that can change next month at the free will of developers.
    7.privacy; don't know the blxxdy code of linux at all, how do I know if somebody has access my linux box over the network??? what happens if ssh is enable and somebody get access to your files, where do you see it? Where a re the system logs!!! BOOOMM!!
    8.Money; ok, linux is NOT free, I have spent lots of time with many distros, and the only thing useful is the buble and the penguim games
    My good advice to Win7sins.org: don't take it with poor BGates, he's sad and now retired. Improve yourself before to take it on others, showing that windows is bad doesn't make you any better.
    My good advice to Linux lovers: please raise your hands is you are reading this under linux, had the system install for more than 3 months, only goes to windows once a week and does not work as a programmer????
  9. Somian asked about easy-to-use Linux distros; the first one I found that easily installed on my older hardware was Ubuntu 8.10. It detected ALL of my hardware, including the d-Link USB wireless network adapter. Ubuntu also installed the correct device drivers, so I was up and running in a very short time. Linux can be a good solution for making older hardware useful while becoming more user-friendly all the time.
  10. Linux COULD BE a good OS for every days use, But, its NOT!

    The only place a Linux is good for is Netbooks and server, thats it. It will take another 5-10 years for it to becomes main stream in desktop PC's.
  11. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,956   +356

    The new Ubuntu 9.04 is even better. The HDD detection sees the drives when you have the BIOS set to run SATA as IDE. The earlier distros had trouble with this, kept asking for SATA drivers, and I was unsucessful at using them on newer boards, even attempting a live run.

    I'm not sure what the fuss is about the install. Ubuntu installs as easily as XP, but with more flexibility in creating partitions. About a dozen clicks Yo, and you're done. No command line stunts either.
  12. paynetrain007 Newcomer, in training Posts: 85

    Ya... I'm SURE they mean well... I know I can send out 50 letters for less than $25
  13. shossofe TechSpot Member Posts: 49

    hahaha.
    Of course.
    It doesn't matter what the hell they want. I don't see any reason on why companies should use Linux over Windows 7. Linux isn't that user friendly in my own opinion. It would save them money, but wouldn't it be a pain in the *** for them to install all the stuff they want?
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on Linux. I have Fedora nicely installed into my computer atm. But still, I would rather spend a few clicks installing Microsoft word/excel/power point, than to type several lines of codes to "hope" the install works. But, I'm still new to Linux so it may just be because I don't know how to use it.
  14. Morons.

    I'm all for Open Source, but at the end of the day, thank god we have entrepreneurs who build and grow companies, bring us new products and capabilities, and create jobs. I don't mind paying Bill Gates a chunk of change every so often for all he has created. Nor Steve Jobs (even though I really don't like him or Apple too much).

    And by the way, there are millions of people in Africa who are pretty happy Bill made a fortune and is now generously sharing it with them through his foundation, to the betterment of their lives.
  15. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,085   +97

    Well, great enthusiasm, but misdirected targets... People have been trying to make Linux more mainstream friendly for ages, the problem is that (relatively) nobody hears about it.
    Here's an analogy: you create a great new power distribution system for hydrogen cars, so hey it should take off like gangbusters... Oh, what's that, there's hardly any hydrogen powered cars on the road? Everyone is using gasoline cars? But but but, my stuff is cool, everyone should use it, LOOK AT MEEEEEE!!! <insert sounds of crickets chirping while new product goes unnoticed and fails miserably>
    The problem isn't the Linux community, the problem is everyone ELSE. Get some big developers to turn towards Linux and get a little push behind it, and things could turn quickly. But that won't happen, they cater to the mighty 2 (MS and Apple) because that is where the money is. Even the great apps that are Linux developed (open office, gimp, etc) end up having to support the mainstream systems to get anywhere. It's a numbers game, and Linux is so far behind they can't possibly catch up, unless someone or something BIG shoves it to the forefront. Which I personally would love to see.
    And, for the record, it's one of the main reasons I'm rooting for Chrome OS. Google pushing a Linux-based system into the limelight can only do good for the cause. And I've always been a big proponent of a Linux gaming environment, imagine how efficient a system based on a low-overhead kernel could be - it could rival consoles for performance and ease of use... Hey, a man can dream, right?
  16. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,956   +356

    Ooooo, Bill Gates is the new Robin Hood , now is he?
  17. Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,085   +97

    Created? Man, somebody needs to examine the history of Microsoft. At least the entrepeneur part is correct - look at all the code (starting with the basis of the original MS-DOS) that MS bought, revamped, and packaged as a Microsoft product, or used as the basis for one. Many of my friends went to work for MS, and they had the constant "if we can't beat it, we'll buy it" mantra thrown at them through most of the late 80s & 90s.
    But yah, I don't mind throwing money at a company that takes perfectly good operating systems and throws them out, only to make newer slower more bloated bugware crap, then forces it down our throats just to create a revenue stream for their company. And then having to pay them when something in their expensive crapware doesn't work as it should, just to have that proper support, that just gives me a huge warm fuzzy... <disengage sarcasm mode>
    And, somehow, WE'RE the morons for not wanting to fuel the MS juggernaut?
  18. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    The average user cannot write or customize their own OS, which is why companies like MS exist in the first place.

    Vista was a mistake; it should have been what Windows 7 is currently.
  19. So in your mind (such as it is) the "Open Source" movement is the new Robin Hood, huh? LOL.
  20. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,956   +356

    Ready, Get Set, Let's Learn to Read... (and comprehend)

    I'll try to break this down for you in small easy to comprehend snippets.

    I was referring to Bill Gates as "Robin Hood" in response to this post;
    First, nobody ever said the "Robin Hood" couldn't be rich in his own right! Second, "the rich" was(is) a metaphor for the more affluent people of the Western World, who have made Gates rich in the first place. So, he's not really giving away his money, it's our money deferred. While, in the mean time, getting lauded as a great philanthropist. Our in simpler terms that you might come to grips with, Gates price gouges (robs) us, then gives a small portion away to massage his conscience, and gets a bunch of positive press in the process.

    In my mind, (such as it is), the Free Software Foundation rather compares to "DonQuixote", pointlessly tilting at windmills. Well meaning, well intentioned, but ineffective.

    Much like the random stupidity that rambles through here from time to time and posts under the name "Guest"