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Game of Thrones is 2013's most pirated TV show, again

By Scorpus
Dec 28, 2013
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  1. Game of Thrones has taken out the illustrious title of 'Most Pirated TV Show' for the second year in a row, according to data from TorrentFreak. At its peak - the season finale titled 'Mhysa' - the popular HBO TV...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,265   +1,552

    Maybe I should start and bump the ratings even higher. lol
     
  3. H3llion

    H3llion TechSpot Paladin Posts: 975   +99

    Seems like the creators are missing out on a large market. Netflix should have a free account where you can download these shows and watch them in max quality. Then, put ads on them (one every 15mins for 1min). If not that, then I am sure they could think of something else.
     
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  4. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,526   +324

    I'm happy to say that I am one of those that Pirated Game of Thrones, do you know why? Because they DO NOT provide any kind of decent quality stream or download here in the UK, as far as I'm aware it's not a show that airs on Freeview, hell I think it's a Sky only thing! I believe you can get it on DVD and Blu-ray, problem is I don't own a DVD drive, or Blu-Ray drive, I didn't bother with one in my computer since I download all my games and yeah, I don't ever need to burn things since I have plenty of USB sticks.

    I don't get why they have limited to just Sky premium customers and DVD?! Agreed with @H3llion as well, Even that would be better than nothing, these company's are *****s, they are missing out of money AND annoying people (such as myself) who are prepared to pay to watch.
     
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  5. Xtreme gamer

    Xtreme gamer TS Rookie Posts: 30

    You don't have access to a DVD player at all? Ummm you're on Techspot.
    Buy one.
     
  6. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,526   +324

    So your proposing I should buy a DVD player for ONE show? The rest of the world seems to allow me to stream or download on iTunes there shows / movies, I invested on a decent internet line with unlimited bandwidth but your telling me I should now go out and buy a DVD player for a single show? Hhhhmmm... Let me think about it... Well I guess... No... I guess HBO could, you know, move with the times and put it up on sale in iTunes? Or any streaming service? I'm sure I'm not the only person on this planet who would find it extremely useful. Besides, I will buy it when I can download it or stream it, I'm already subscribed to Netflix / love film etc...
     
  7. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,372   +407

    You don't have a DVD player in your PC? And you can't connect your PC to your TV?

    Ummm you're on Techspot.

    Figure it out.
     
  8. TrueBooleanFals

    TrueBooleanFals TS Member Posts: 55   +6

    DVD players are cheap... DVDs are cheap... stop being cheap and buy the damned equipment necessary to play the show that you are enjoying...? Yeah, just makes too much sense, honestly, people will make nonsense to defend their 'reasons' for not doing something.

    Now, I could understand pirating if you said something along the lines of 'Services just aren't available in my Area/Country' of 'I do not have the money for premium channels', but even then... DVD...
     
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  9. Scorpus

    Scorpus TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 680   +96 Staff Member

    Not that I want to defend piracy, but getting a show on DVD or Blu-ray is not the same as watching it when it comes out. Here in Australia there is no way to watch Game of Thrones when it comes out (nor near to it) without buying subscription TV packages (and it's not just the basic package either).

    It's utter stupidity that it's impossible to watch this show legitimately, when it is aired in the United States, without having to pay for a whole ton of unnecessary channels
     
  10. TrueBooleanFals

    TrueBooleanFals TS Member Posts: 55   +6


    HBO is a premium movie channel... we in the states have to pay a 'premium' to get it... how is watching a DVD/bluray different than watching the series as it airs... other than being able to watch the show when you want, without commercials, and ability to pause it? It actually seems better, and cheaper as HBO is at least $14 a month extra to your bill, series run about two or three months, meaning $28-$42, plus monthly bill. There really is not a reason in your statement Scorpus, just an excuse.

    With HBO subscription via TV providers, you get access to HBO Go, which gives you the ability to stream the episode after it airs, usually a day later, but sometimes within the hour, to your smartphone, tablet, PC, or Mac.
     
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  11. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,372   +407

    What TrueBooleanFals said. I live in the U.S. and if I want to watch it, I have to subscribe to HBO (along with the cable TV package) just like you would have to.

    So what's the problem? If you want to watch it in HD and at the same time every one else does, subscribe to cable TV and HBO for 3 months as the series airs and then cancel when it's over. That's what I've done the last two seasons.
     
     
  12. Scorpus

    Scorpus TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 680   +96 Staff Member

    Except that in Australia it's not just an extra $14 per month. We're talking a minimum of AU$74 per month plus a $150 equipment setup fee. Hardly worth it when all I want is just one show.

    Why do I have to spend that much instead of buying just one channel/show?
     
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  13. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,372   +407

    That's about what we pay here in the states too.
     
  14. TrueBooleanFals

    TrueBooleanFals TS Member Posts: 55   +6

    I work for Dish Network civilian side... our packages start at around $45/mo, that's an introductory rate, after first year, its full price of $62, if you have more than one receiver it costs... DVR, costs more, BB@Home, tech svc fee... equipment fee... all that jazz... we have it too...
     
  15. Scorpus

    Scorpus TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 680   +96 Staff Member

    Well it's no wonder people pirate the show. You'd think many more people would jump on board with a la carte IPTV programming

    EDIT: Actually it turns out Game of Thrones was available in Australia through iTunes, a la carte, with the same from-US delay as subscription cable. But not any more, so I'm not surprised we're the top pirating nation
     
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  16. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,986   +957

    Gosh, I have the reverse problem from the rest of you. (As you might expect. I have Blu-Ray / DVD sets of seasons 1 & 2, but haven't bothered to watch them yet. Since there's no way on earth I'm springing for cable, I wait for the discs, And well, when I get them, the show's still new to me.

    Any how, I bought season 2 set over a year ago because it was on sale. Then, I quickly realized I couldn't watch it until I had seen season 1....:oops:

    But, no joy. I'm so cheap I squeak when I walk, and the season 1 box set wasn't to be had for much under $46.00. Then eureka, Best Buy put up season 1 Blu-ray + DVD on Black Friday for $19.95. I got the last one. (Well that, and a 46" LED TV, an HP 3 way printer, and 3 seasons of Chuck). I have to face facts. I was born in December, just 3 weeks before Christmas. It's a dirty, thankless job, buying myself all those presents in such a short time frame, but somebody's got to do it.

    So what should I do now, wait to watch seasons 1 & 2, or wait until season 3 is released? Or what the hell, keep buying box sets until they cancel the show, then watch it from start to finish, behind an eight ball of, (stimulant suggestions go here >> (.......)), er of, whatever.

    Anyway @Burty117 ,You should treat yourself to some sort of DVD recording mechanism. I have a stand alone DVD recorder. (Plus a bunch of other junk that spins discs). Over here, OTA TV is Hi-Def & free!

    So, I just recorded this year's, "Victoria's Secret Fashion Show". (I'll use DVD Shrink to print it off the DVD+RW discs I use in the recorder)

    Ahem, I thought it would be nice to have some footage around of model's with clothes on for a change.:D
     
  17. I'll just say that Breaking Bad is in second and is readily available on Netflix AND has a dirt box set when compared to the silly prices of Game of S1 & 2.
     
  18. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,986   +957

    Like I said, (actually intimated), you have to be patient. S2 of "Game" cost me $37.00, an S1 of "Game", cost me $20.00. Those are Bu-Ray + DVD + digital copy. So, figure less than $30.00 per season, (10 episodes), which amounts to the same price as a Hi-Def download from Amazon or iTunes.


    BTW, is this show any good? I still haven't seen it.:oops:
     
  19. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,526   +324

    Did you read my post? Please read again, I made a conscience decision NOT to buy one for my PC build, sure they're only £15-£30 but I could spend that on a decent heatsink instead, Also as I stated, everything else is available somewhere as download or stream, why not Game of Thrones?

    Ok I'll do it your way, The services I require/prefer/I've invested and ready to use, do not exist for this ONE show, I'm also in a position I cannot get satellite TV to watch it on the single channel that airs it...
    Better?

    Your lucky, I wish here in the UK we had the same possibility :(

    Yeah I know I could, but it feels like a waste of money to be used once or twice for a single show :( And then I have to store the DVD's / Blurays somewhere since I wouldn't be able to put them on the Micro server :(

    Dear god yes! It is pretty epic :D

    I actually don't mind how long I have to wait as long as I can download or stream the first season by the time the second season starts airing, They haven't bothered with either method of delivery in the UK, so I got hold of them from other means, but mark my word, like I have in the past, I will purchase the official versions once they are available.
     
  20. Networks overcharge for subscription packages, and just like Games, Blu-ray Hd content is extortianate on release. You have to wait for the mugs with too much money than sense to get their fill and sales to slow before it can be dropped to poor people / sensible prices.

    Everyone recorded shows on sky on vhs and lent them to friends, now its easier with digital ( but also easy to see how much is going on now its digital ) so what? It is how it is, how it was, how it will be forever. And if you are going to make a tv show, then you finish it... not cancel it 2 or 3 times, but give the viewer especially that who is paying subscription fees and blu ray prices, a satisfactory ending.

    Although if LOST is anything to go by, and you change all your writers, and they have no idea what they are doing, but decide to give it the ending that everyone said, please don't make it that lame ending... but they do anyway as the worlds sickest joke, then please don't make us suffer that again, ty.
     
  21. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,177   +176

    Sorry but you just spoke complete garbage. If content providers want people to pay for Games of Thrones and not pirate so much, they have to provide a model that the customers are willing to pay for. Paying for an entire pay tv subscription PLUS a premium content levy is ridiculous for a single show. People are voting WITH THEIR WALLETS AND NOT PAYING. Isn't that a message?
     
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,986   +957

    Even when episodes of a show ARE made available on iTunes or Amazon Instant Video, and many others, it's a ripoff. Media downloaded through these sources isn't portable. With that said, I have no idea how much NAS an individual would need to become a "collector" of downloads of this type. And all the while, you need to maintain one single computer for the sake of the serial number, for playback.

    If someone can get media through honest means, then "piracy" IS stealing.

    If someone cannot get media they desire by "honest means", (for example, it's not distributed in their country, by choice of the supplier), then "piracy", becomes "expedience", and no penalty should attach. (There's an unstated, "we don't care about that market". Or perhaps, "it's too much aggravation or money to spend to penetrate that market). In this case, no penalty should attach.

    So, if a content provider chooses not to enter a specific market, they should tacitly lose all rights to their content in that area.
     
  23. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,526   +324

    Agreed, and if anything, with such rampant Piracy surrounding the show, it goes to show that people think it is a very good show, considering Breaking Bad has twice as many viewers and still less pirated, reason being? You can get Breaking Bad from pretty much anywhere for a decent price.

    What about that "grey" area? You know, when the legal version you've paid for doesn't play back on a certain device because of DRM or is low quality or a massive file or in a format (such as DVD) that you don't want to / can't use? I can't remember the game, This was 3-4 years ago now, I purchased a game (for the life of me I can't remember what it was) and the DRM on it made it pretty much useless, I downloaded a "Pirated copy" and used that instead. Was I in the wrong? As far as I'm concerned, I wasn't, I had paid my dues but the product provided had an anti-theft system that stopped me from using said item.

    Now me pirating Game of Thrones, is a similar situation except I'm trying to vote with my money the platform and price I'm willing to pay, the day it is released on a streaming service in the UK I'll of already paid for it since I'm subscribed to many of them anyway, release it on iTunes for the same price as the Blurays I would still buy it, as long as I have paid for the product, does it matter what version of it I use when I want to watch it on my Tablet? or TV? I've paid for the right to watch said content, why can't I watch said content the way I want?
     
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  24. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,986   +957

    I was painting with a narrow brush, and it certainly wouldn't cover all contingencies of what I consider "fair use". Hell, Best Buy sold me a game that simply wouldn't run. I asked for my money back, and predictably I was refused. I left it at the CS desk, with a few instructions on how I thought the CS reps might put it to "good use".
    Now stop Burty, we understand. Besides, "admission absolves guilt", is a bull s*** hoax that has been perpetrated by the Roman Catholic Church, pushing 2 millennia now .
    OK, I have 1 meg DSL, locked in for life @ $17.95 USD. Streaming isn't an option for me. With that said, I attach the need for extreme high speed internet, as another penalty charge, for being internet dependent. So,you can't easily copy or store all that you've streamed, and you have nothing but full HDDs and a fixed source to show for it.

    And this brings us back to optical media, with with you can work with, "outside the cloud". I won't fire up a 1000 pound sterling computer, to watch something I'd enjoy more, coming from a $60.00 Blu-Ray/DVD player, and a 46" TV.

    So, the moral of the story is, if I didn't have access to "GoT", and I were going to "pirate" , it, (which of course, I'm far too moral and fair minded to do..;);););)), I'd download an ISO, and burn it to disc anyway.

    (In this case I actually did buy the DVDs, which I really should make time to watch. I hear there's a naked girl that lays dragon eggs, is this true)?

    If you'd another example of internet addiction / dependency run amok, go here: http://www.techspot.com/community/t...e-u-s-is-now-viewed-on-mobile-devices.198874/

    And keep in mind, that since I have a photographic, more so than a computer background, I keep a machine dedicated to vertical monitor positioning. When you come right down to it, more than 50% of art photography", is in the portrait orientation. (I'll spare you the tirade on image height versus aspect ratio).
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2013
  25. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,106   +44

    Out of everything I download.... I actually purchased blu-ray of the Game of Thrones Season Two, because I had already a digital copy of season one, I did not purchase that one. I knew of the special features on the blu-rays and decided that would be helpful in keeping track of what's going on. It's helped, minimally as it is. It's still a fun feature, if I forget who they are talking about or who someone is then I can just find out again really quick. I think I may eventually purchase Season Three.
     


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