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Gaming MB's vs CPU's

Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by Charles9510, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,720   +6

    SATA remains faster. The most interesting performance feature of SATA is the maximum bandwidth possible. The evolution of ATA drives has seen the data transfer rate reach its maximum at 133 MB/second, where the current SATA standard provides data transfers of up to 300 MB/second, or 150 MB/Second in the older SATA units. The overall performance increase of the slowest SATA over ATA, regardless of spindle should be 5% to 8%, but changes in SATA technology have improved on that.

    The maximum possible SATA speed currently utilized is 300 MB/Second vs 133 MB/Second for PATA/EIDE . We will see further increases as operating systems grow, but they will require new SATA hard drives as yet unlabled. Spindle speed differences cannot keep up with those differences in actual use.

    Conceptually, SATA is a replacement for the older standard (ATA/EIDE), but SATA host-adapters and devices communicate via high-speed serial cables. SATA offers several compelling advantages over the older parallel ATA/EIDE interface. Among them, reduced cable-bulk, 8 pins vs 80, significantly faster and more efficient data transfer, and user ability to perform hot swapping of SATA devices.
    Today, SATA has all but replaced the legacy ATA, now retroactively renamed Parallel ATA or PATA. PATA, for now, remains dominant in industrial and embedded applications dependent on Compact Flash technology.

    SATA controllers use as their defacto interface the AHCI or Advanced Host Controller Interface which allows these advanced SATA features of “hot plug” and “native command queuing or ”NCQ”. AHCI is not enabled by the motherboard and chipset. One slow-down comes when the SATA controllers work in IDE emulation mode. That IDE emulation doesn’t allow certain features to be accessed if the ATA or EIDE standard does not support them. Windows XP device drivers that are labeled as SATA are usually running in IDE emulation mode unless they explicitly state that they are AHCI. Drivers included with Windows XP do not support AHCI. That is where another confusion comes regarding spindle speeds. Bottom Line: if you have Windows XP, you won’t see a big difference of more than 5% to 10%, but in VISTA, the modern Linux, and Windows 7 you definitely will. SATA will always be at least 5% faster, but can be as high as 50% faster

    With the current SATA 3.00 specifications, data transfer rates as high as 3.0 Gbit/s per device are found, vs 1.5 GBs of last year. In addition, SATA uses only 4 signal lines. Cables are cheaper because they are more compact and use less wire. Once Windows 7 comes into play, the differences will be huge, and computers with EIDE drives will be noticeably slower.
  2. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,897   +75

    That is typical when installing Windows XP on a SATA hard drive. Windows XP doesn't recognize it because it doesn't have the proper driver for your motherboard's SATA/RAID controller so you have to supply it during Windows Setup. That opportunity comes with the F6 prompt for third party drivers. When you install the appropriate SATA/RAID controller drivers at this point, the rest of setup should continue smoothly.

    As I mentioned before, in order for the F6 procedure to work you will need a floppy drive and diskette. Read the motherboard manual for the procedure to make a SATA floppy from the motherboard driver CD. Alternately, you can go to the Asus website to download the latest drivers and make the floppy from them. Choose the drivers that are for making the floppy driver disk. There may be more than one since you appear to have two different makes of SATA controllers built into the motherboard. Install all that apply.

    If you don't have a floppy, consider getting one as they are inexpensive and simplify this procedure. Perhaps you can borrow one from another PC temporarily. If not, you can create a slipstream CD that will combine XP and the SATA/RAID drivers and bypass the floppy thing. You can google for the procedure.
  3. Charles9510 Newcomer, in training Posts: 16

    Finally got my system up and running and runs great. However, i have an 80gb IDE/ATA HD installed. I want to install my 500gb SATA HD instead. I made a a SATA floppy from the motherboard driver CD.

    How do i proceed from here without screwing something up?
  4. raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,720   +6

    Get the very best SATA cables, then install the SATA drivers, then install the SATA drive. then boot to the install disk, and follow the instructions on the screen just like always.
    About 40 percent of users reportedly get an error message that the new hard drive is not detected, so read through the entire install process on the website of the hard drive manufacturer.
  5. Charles9510 Newcomer, in training Posts: 16

    It's a miracle! I got the sata drive installed.

    I want to thank all of you that gave me information for putting together this system. I learned a great many things. Thank you all again. Untill the next time, Happy Computing!