My system:- Lex nForce 2 board; Athlon 2800+; 64MB GeForce 3 Ti 200; 256MB DDR; 160GB Seagate HDD (40 + 120); SoundBlaster PCI 128. Just wondering if any of you folks out there are having as much trouble with your GeForce 3 Ti 200 as I am... OK here's the story.. I've had the card since late 2001, and it ran well with nVidia's Detonator Drivers under Win ME (although the drivers caused it to take about 4 minutes for the system to boot, for some reason, and I had to install the driver manually from the unzipped folder using Device Maganer, 'cos the installer kept returning syntax errors whenever I ran it... nVidia drivers still do this, by the way, even though I'm now using a totally different system with XP Pro)... The trouble started when nVidia changed to the Forceware Driver. With the card still in my old system, I upgraded to Win XP Pro, and started getting serious system crashes. After logging onto Windows after a re-boot, the PC got as far as drawing about half the icons on my desktop, then froze for a couple of seconds before switching itself off and re-booting. Upon re-start, the system reported that "Windows has recovered from a serious error. This error was caused by a device driver.", and named the nVidia Driver as the culprit (I've subequently discovered that the driver was sending the card into an infinite loop). Laterally, this was happening 3-4 times a day, so, in utter exasperation, I bought £300-worth of gear, a new ATX case, and completely re-built my PC. If anything, it's now even worse.. Now, whenever I try to update the driver (using the Device Manager method, 'cos it's the only one that I can get to work..), the screen goes black right at the end of the installation, and just sits there with a DOS cursor flashing in the top-left corner 'til I press the reset button. Upon re-booting, the system only has a partial install of the driver, and reports missing .dlls all over the place. All I can do at that point is uninstall the lot in Safe Mode and revert to the old 45.23 Detonator (the most recent nVidia set that I can get to install properly..). Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I'm about to rip the damned thing out of my PC and dance on it before heading for PC World to buy a Raedon, unless anyone else out there has any ideas for fixing it... All suggestions welcome!