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Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by mako man, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. alomst_perfect Newcomer, in training

    hi

    just reading the threads
  2. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,958   +357

    WD.....The Evil Empire......

    Actually, WD only offers the 3 years warranty on OEM drives. The last time I checked it was only 1 year on a retail drive purchase, which is kinda lame.

    With WD Raptors only the 150GB model supports "NCQ", whereas any Seagate SATA2 from 80GB on up supports it. This matters if you decide on a Raid arrangement.

    I'm onboard with the sustained data transfer rates being faster in the Seagates, with one reservation. The "seek" times are somewhat lower in the 10,000 RPM drives. In a 7200 RPM RAID 0 setup this is easily offset.

    I don't know what's up with the Antec 900 at the moment, it seems that none of the normal suppliers (US) have it at the moment. Perhaps, Antec is between models, and everybody's waiting for the "901" or "910". No matter, as I said earlier Amazon has it for a hundred bucks. When I searched Tiger Direct for the 900, what the search returned was this outrageous, over the top game box! Here, have a look: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=3774992&sku=V133-75000&srkey=antec 900
  3. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    Thanks for the update captaincranky, I didn't know about that. There are many who have fallen to the dark side though...;)
    @mako man, the P5E comes with Crossfire as standard. You don't need SLI or Crossfire IMO, especially with a powerful card such as the 9800GX2. Forget about it and enjoy your new system.
  4. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Thank you very much....
  5. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    No problem mate, have a good one. If you can, update us when you get it. :)
  6. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Thanks Rage
    I will post it when I get it finished.

    Will the Antec 900 house all the components you described. The last thing I want to do is get this tower and it doesn"t work?
     
  7. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    Yes, it will house all of them quite comfortably.
  8. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Rage,

    How is this PSU corsair CMPSU750TX ATX12V/EPS12V 750w? Overkill or not

    Do you have a crucial ballistic part number for the 4GB DDR2 1066? I see different types ex 4x1 or 2x2 ect, does it matter which you use?

    Do you know which fan I can use for the one side fan in the antec 900 case?

    Thank you
  9. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Rage,
    I just spoke with the builder and he advised that he will never use asus he absolutely refuses. He will only use an intel motherboard do you know which model would be comparible to the asus P5E?

    Thanks
  10. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,918   +119

    Find a new system builder or do it yourself. I can understand refusing to use ECS boards or some other low end board manufacturer, but refusing to build a system because of an Asus motherboard is a poor decision.

    Building a computer these days is ridicoulsly easy now, you should be able to put it together yourself in a few hours.
  11. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Thanks, but I don't trust myself to self diagnose when something doesn't work properly.

    He wants to use Intel DX38BT motherboard. Any comments?

    He claims that their service dept is horrible and with his twenty plus years of building he claims he uses what works well.
  12. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,958   +357

    Does this Intel board we're talking have full control in the BIOS, overclocking, memory voltage, and timing? Because before only the BX975 "Bad Axe" had an unlocked BIOS. That's why nobody used them for gaming boxes.

    Not that it matters one bit, but I think, all Intel boards are made by Foxconn.

    What about a Gigabyte equivalent....? Opine, don't hold back!
  13. Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,246   +16

    That PSU is overkill. The 550VX will provide enough power.
    Also, I'd recommend finding another builder like SNGX said. ASUS makes some of the best motherboards in the world, so I don't see why one bad experience would turn him off of them to this extent. The Intel mobo is okay, but not recommended for a gaming rig due to the missing OC options.
    That's what this forum is for.
  14. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,958   +357

    That's a pretty arrogant stance for somebody who is trying to pass himself off as a technician and a businessman.
  15. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    He stated that he has had numerous problems with their products and factory service over the years. I don't know where the truth lies but that is his position. I asked him about overclocking and he stated he won't do it because it burns up motherboards. I don't know if this is true or not but I can say that I want a computer that I can turn on and use. I have no computer skills to check the system or OC. This is the reason I want a good gaming computer that I can turn on and it works as it is suppose to and I can kick some tail.

    Thanks again I will keep you posted and I do appreciate your responses.
  16. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,958   +357

    Most people that game (for better or worse) do wind up overclocking their system.
    Some burn up their systems, also true. Intel has a reputation to uphold and they have to honor the warranty on their CPUs also, so they (generally) limit the options available in their BIOS.

    As I said earlier in the thread, the new high end Intel boards (should) offer much more in the way of BIOS options. So I guess "which Intel board are we talking about", would be a must ask kind of question.

    High end custom gaming boxes are usually factory overclocked. That said, a machine in the performance range doesn't actually need overclocking, unless of course, you're in the finals with "Fatality".

    Personally, I would deeply resent being held at ransom over a parts question.

    But then, I would assemble it myself, and pocket the money.

    All that said, Intel's support is at least as good as anybody elses,
  17. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,918   +119

    I think you are making a mistake if you are going to be forced to use an Intel board. Like I said earlier its extremely easy to build your own PC now, and there really isn't that much that can go wrong.

    Its basically install cpu, put down thin layer of thermal paste, install heatsink, install RAM. Then install PSU into case, install drives into case, install motherboard into case, install video card, connect the LEDs, power, and reset switch, plug psu wires into drives, motherboard, video card, connect drives to motherboard. Done. <psu, motherboard, drive installation can be swapped in order depending on the case>

    Devices only go into 1 spot in 1 direction so you can't mess that up. Its easy. Your first build should take maybe 5 hours + or - a couple. Someone more expierenced might be able to get that down to 30 minutes to an hour and a half depending on number of components and the case.
  18. mako man Newcomer, in training Posts: 100

    Just got off the telephone with the comp guy this is want he recommends:

    1). Intel core Quad Q9300 2.5 GHZ LGA 775 95W Processer 1333MHZ Yorkfield
    2). Intel Motherboard DX38BT DDR3
    3). Memory 4GB DDR3 2x2gb 1333 Super talent
    4). WD 150 GB 10,000rpm hard drive
    5).Antec 650 watt PSU
    6).GEForce 98 GX2

    So I say how is this system?

    SNGX1275 I appreciate how easy it seems with your description but I dont want to tackle programming Vista and updates ect. I have no experience and will definately have problems.
  19. SNGX1275 TS Special Forces Posts: 11,918   +119

    I'm sure that build he suggested will be a fine computer. But what RAM is that? Why is he suggesting that over Rage's Crucial Ballistix? I'll admit I don't know anything about "super talent" RAM, but there is probably a reason I haven't heard it mentioned with the big boys like Crucial, Mushkin, OCZ, Corsair, and others.
  20. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,958   +357

    Huh.......?

    Am I the only that thinks the DDR3 is an unnecessary extravagance?

    It is three times the price of DDR2.

    And how did this change from name brand to no name memory?

    Really good DDR2 wil probably approach those clock speeds.