If you can present a mentally stable artist throughout the ages, I can indeed present you a pitchfork.
Google accused of being "woke" after Gemini creates inaccurate, racially diverse historical...
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If you can present a mentally stable artist throughout the ages, I can indeed present you a pitchfork.
wiyosaya
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So, are you saying "If you don't like what I like, then you are sick?"
If that's the case, I'll argue that this is a perfect example of how the world is going to sh!t.
wiyosaya
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As someone who has seen nearly every episode of Doctor Who, classic era and modern era, that is humanly possible to see, my opinion is that there is only one modern show runner who fits your bill, and without naming names, I'll say that the current show runner is that one.
Its not that I am against the portrayal of certain subjects; it is how that show runner decided to kill off a major potential story line in an effort to make viewers empathize with The Doctor. The Doctor, IMO, is an immensely interesting character on his/her own with the possibility of exploring an infinite number of story lines.
Killing off the Time Lords was, IMO, a very bad idea because it killed major potential story lines. If it had not been for Steven Moffat having the foresight to bring them back, Doctor Who would have been left in a dismal state; many shows, Stargate SG-1, Sanctuary, etc., have gone down that path of killing characters/races/civilizations for dramatic effect. To me, that type of story displays a complete lack of creative talent and foresight. Moffat left a great set of story lines to explore by bringing back the Time Lords; its now up to current and future DW show runners and writers to explore it if they have the creative chops to do so. I am far from thrilled at the current show runner coming back, but I'll watch and give the show a chance.
That said, my observations as a long time fan is that people "adopt" a particular actor playing The Doctor, and when change comes, they toss the show aside because "their favorite" is no longer playing The Doctor, and they cannot/will not/refuse to adjust to the new actor.
For me, however, the show is always about the story telling, and each actor playing The Doctor has given the show their best. So, yes, I liked Jodi Whittaker, Matt Smith, David Tennant, and on.
The only low point, IMO, in the story telling was the decision to revive Doctor Who with the side-story of killing off the Time Lords; that, however, gave Steven Moffat the chance to brilliantly bring them back. It's too bad, IMO, Moffat got hung up on Jenna Coleman/Clara and decided to leave the show.
Here's a quote that I think fits the bill with respect to Science Fiction and/or Fiction in general:
Douglas Anders:
Science fiction is an existential metaphor that allows us to tell stories about the human condition. Isaac Asimov once said, "Individual science fiction stories may seem as trivial as ever to the blinded critics and philosophers of today, but the core of science fiction, its essence, has become crucial to our salvation, if we are to be saved at all."
Ohnooze
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No, not liking what I like. But when I look at the "modern liberal" I see people who have lost all perspective on reality. I'm not talking about classic liberals either.
Dimitrios
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Like I said before here, Bama is strongly pushing AI for a reason. The AI bill has been admitted that Bama had a big part of it. Be it health insurance, search engines, and being relied on with security camera's and in the court system is very disturbing. The greatest part relying on AI is the finger point game. Look up Chinese AI camera's being used to analyze ethnicity and other personal categories. Also when you add EQUITY, DEI etc it opens the door to chaos. Look up Hawaii Equity water belief and also AI in climate change. China, Bama, John Kerry, Bill Gates, Harris are pushing this real hard. Maybe I'm overreacting, and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in on how they feel about AI in politics and basically running the world.
Also may I add AI bots are being flooded in YOUTUBE comments mostly in cheap movie trailers to claim the movie is awesome and also in politics and look at the bots in any pro Trump news channels and flooding them with lies. AI bots are also going after children and gullible people and making them do horrible things. Many parents have come forward about this.
Also may I add AI bots are being flooded in YOUTUBE comments mostly in cheap movie trailers to claim the movie is awesome and also in politics and look at the bots in any pro Trump news channels and flooding them with lies. AI bots are also going after children and gullible people and making them do horrible things. Many parents have come forward about this.
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TempleOrion
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Bwhwhahahaha. Well duh, Trump and his deluded entourage can't distinguish truth from fiction so of course their channels are full of lies, don't need bots for that LMAO.
Oh think of the children! They're not being indoctrinated in right wing conspiracy theories enough, how will they grow up to be the braindead sheeple that libertarians love?!
axiomatic13
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So much stereotyping! I am a diehard liberal and there is no chance that you could describe me or my life or my profession.
Ohnooze
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Of course it's stereotyping. I'm paintng with a broad brush here. It's an "in general" comment. I wasn't talking specifically about axiomatic13 and his/her/whatever's life.
It's possible for anyone to be racist. We all have bias, AKA implicit bias, about fellow humans and many other concepts in life. The idea is to challenge our thinking, not to think we are somehow immune. Your statement reminds me of the (true) statement, "When someone starts with " I'm not racist, but ... " the next thing is sure to be racist.
Ohnooze
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The problem with "woke" is that everything is looked at through race glasses. It's seen in everything....there or not.
Dimitrios
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I know the difference, ever since a drunk driver hit me on my street bike years back I was in a wheelchair for a long time. I was bored and sometimes depressed, and started looking for the truth and trying to help the American people and making their lives easier. No government has the right to ruin your life or your safety or interfere with your goals/dreams. The things I have exposed took MSM in America months and even years to report. Sadly most stories get ignored, chopped up, tweaked, or delayed it so late that the damage is already done. Getting reliable news sadly takes more effort as time goes on. Funny how the conspiracy theories ended up being true. Some news agencies have actually admitted they were wrong (SOME AGENCIES) Funny the things you bashed Orange man the last 8+ years ended being lies. People tend to forget the past and what was pushed from the media is now "forgotten" like the memory of a goldfish. I will end it here. Anything you want I can hand over. I was banned from Fakebook and Twitter but with Elon I'm allowed to post my findings. Dimtriosf2.Bwhwhahahaha. Well duh, Trump and his deluded entourage can't distinguish truth from fiction so of course their channels are full of lies, don't need bots for that LMAO.
Oh think of the children! They're not being indoctrinated in right wing conspiracy theories enough, how will they grow up to be the braindead sheeple that libertarians love?!
wiyosaya
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It isn't that. Its that Pichai is too obsessed with growth and profit. So much so that "products" are rushed out the door without proper quality checks - at least according to this article https://techxplore.com/news/2024-02-google-ai-isnt-woke.html
IMO, this assessment is spot on for everyone chasing after FADs in search of profit. Examples IoT rushed out the door without proper checks for security issues, streaming without actually understanding why people turned to streaming.
"Woke", IMO, is a dog whistle for mostly right and extreme right leaning people to sound an alarm that the left is taking over. Its just another chance for the right to shout "OMG!!!!!!! Its another left-wing conspiracy theory" and has no basis in reality or fact. Then again, since when has the right or extreme right cared about fact or truth other than their facts and their truths?
Ohnooze
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Uh neither far right or far left care about facts. They only care about facts that support their beliefs.
As for this article...I find it a bit hard to believe considering how left leaning google is. In fact I found it funny when I was looking at getting a google phone I noticed how they really went out of their way to put as few white men in the advertising as possible on their site. If you don't believe me go to the site right now and have a look. It's comical imo. It really doesn't bother me as I'm not threatened by it but I do find it pretty pathetic on google's side.
If I remember the whole "woke" thing came from the one's claiming to be "woke".
And I don't know....I mean some of those "conspiracy theories" tend to have a good amount of truth to them. Though there are a lot of people who run with just about anything on both side.
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Burty117
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At no point did I say it was "woke" or excuse the right.
I was merely pointing out the fact history is being modified and eroded away, facts are being lost. It's in the best interests of quite literally everyone on this planet to remember history as factually as possible, otherwise we don't know where we came from, and we don't where we're going, we learn nothing.
wiyosaya
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My rant was not directed against you.
My point was that in pursuit of profit, much of the "richness" is being lost. Companies don't care about putting out a quality product anymore so long as they can get people to buy their products. They seem to have no understanding of their impact on society nor do they seem to care about that impact.
As I see it, we are losing much more than history. Look at what some states are doing by telling schools what history can be taught, libraries what books they can carry, and on and on. Society is eroding in more ways than one. And, as I see it, much of the narrative used to justify these actions have no merit in the same manner as Google's, or any other company's, have no merit in pushing crap out the door in their quest for profit.
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wiyosaya
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You have a right to your opinion, and, IMO, you've overlooked what the article really says by finding things that support your ideology. As I see it, the main thrust of the article was that google was/is overlooking quality in its quest for profit. To me, that is why we have so much crap in the world today, fewer companies care about making quality products and many companies care more about making a profit even if they produce crap.
As for the imagery included in the article, who cares? Most of that imagery is literally synonymous with Google anyway.
I'm glad you got a good laugh from the article.
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