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Google brings the Dead Sea Scrolls online

By Shawn Knight
Sep 26, 2011
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  1. Google has partnered with Israel’s national museum to bring the Dead Sea Scrolls online as part of a project known as The Digital Dead Sea Scrolls. The $3.5 million project…

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  2. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,210   +424

    Just checked it out - very interesting.
     
  3. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,559   +598

    I've always found it interesting that even though these scrolls were written in the vicinity and during the time of his life, the name "Jesus" never appears in them.
     
  4. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,920   +687

    Personally I haven't checked but if what you say is true, that is indeed interesting, might have to read some now! :p
     
  5. motrin

    motrin TS Enthusiast Posts: 159   +12

    I 4th this being interesting.. I only how google translate will help me read them
     
  6. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,559   +598

    It's pretty dry reading and there is a lot of it. I gave it a shot and gave up after a couple of hours reading. Very heavy Hebrew religious dogma stuff. Might want to just read the Cliff's Notes version via Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls
     
  7. it will never contain "jesus" as "jesus" was never a messiah for the jews who crucified him for blasphemy.

    the dead sea scrolls contain biblical passages of the "old testament".

    "jesus" is the message of the "new testament".
     
  8. Brilliant! Will have to check this out.

    @Guest. Thanks for clarification about Jesus in relation to the scrolls (old testament), and well said.
     
  9. Revolution 11

    Revolution 11 TS Enthusiast Posts: 40

    This can't be all the scrolls. How else can Seele hide the big lie?
     
  10. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,559   +598

    You're 1/3 right, Guest. About 1/3 of the scrolls contain blurbs from the Old Testament (albeit told by a different teller). The rest is writings pertaining to their sect and various musings on Hebrewism.

    But one would think if there was a guy walking around in the immediate area and at the time these scrolls were were written, who claimed himself to be the son of God, walked on water, turned water into wine, resurrected after he died, etc., etc., etc., he'd at least get a cursory mention in the scrolls SOMEWHERE.
     
  11. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 669

    The reason you won't find Jesus in the scrolls is that Jesus is a greek mistranslation of the name "Yahushua" otherwise known as Joshua.

    Here's a reference for this tidbit:
    http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm
     
  12. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,011   +18

    Some things to consider are that there were tons of religions around at the time, with tons of different gods being worshiped, with priests of each religion no doubt claiming to have performed many different magical things like changing water into wine or walking on water. In Exodus the pharaoh's magician was able to duplicate a lot of Moses' tricks (or miracles I guess).

    A new religious leader popping up claiming to do miraculous deeds might have been just par for the course with lots of new cults popping up. Take the faith healers we see on TV. Some people probably feel they are real, but the general public is a bit more skeptical, to say the least. We probably don't expect to read about too many of them in mainstream Jewish or Catholic writings as those religions probably don't put too much credence in their deeds.

    For all we know there may have been many Messiahs popping up around Israel around this time. When you're under foreign occupation, it's natural that some part of the population would want to rebel, such as the Zealots. If someone wanted to lead an uprising, what better way to rally support, than to be the prophesied Messiah come to save his people. As the Christian church consolidated itself over the next few centuries any such records might have been expunged in order to make the story of Jesus life have more impact. If he was but one of a dozen of "Messiahs", it might have led to confusion.

    The history of early Christianity is really fascinating, and while not as full of conspiracies as Dan Brown would lead us to believe, nonetheless, there was a lot of retroactive PR work and editing done in order to make the faith adopt an orthodox doctrine.
     
  13. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 1,953   +162

    Jesus was called the prince of poppers, I guess you could say he wasn't main stream lol.

    @Paninx I agree with you completely on the basis that my name is Joshua and I think thats cool :).

    By the way back in the day they would use science to fool people into thinking magic stuff was happening. For instance in some temples they had a automatic door shutter setup through pulleys in the walls. They would say things like if this is true oh gods er w/ they worshiped give me a sign. The big doors would seemingly slam shut on there own. I saw it on the history channel so it must be true.


    Anyways a lot of people might have thought Jesus was just another magic man. However being the prince of poppers and the new testament indicates he did not amass wealth like other religious leaders.
     
  14. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,980   +362

    Poppers? Paupers.
     
  15. tehbanz

    tehbanz TS Enthusiast Posts: 183   +10

    I had a chance to see these in person in the Milwaukee Public Museum, however i was the only one in my group of friends interested in seeing them. A shame, really. Now i can see them online though! thanks google.
     
  16. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,559   +598

    Well put gwailo247.

    Also, the name "Yahushua" aren't in the scrolls either.
     
  17. Eddo22

    Eddo22 TS Enthusiast Posts: 161   +6

    True, but their are numerous versus in the OT with reference to Jesus coming and other names that belong to Jesus.

    Isaiah 9:6 "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
     
  18. 9Nails

    9Nails TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,212   +174

    That's a really good article. Thanks Shawn.
     
  19. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 669

    I've not parsed the scrolls myself, but according to some that have, the name Yeshua, derived from Yahushua, is within the scrolls.

    Here's a reference for you.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_(name)
     
  20. The name of the Lord of the universe is not named by the name in Jesus because the name Jesus is never in the Old Testament. It is correct that the name Jesus is a Greek pronunciation of the Hebrew name Joshua. One of the reasons why the Scrolls would not contain the name of the only Lord is that 1) the Scrolls are only copies of the Old Testament, the Jews would be interested in the actual Old Testament and not a story of current events, if you notice the Scrolls don't name any one else important at the time. 2) The majority of the Jews hated their Messiah, the One who came to save them. They wouldn't want the name Jesus in their manuscripts, just like people today hate their Creator and don't want to include His name anywhere
    But the name of Jesus is in these scrolls. Jesus was not His only name. He was also known as Immanuel and the name Immanuel is in the book of Isaiah where it prophesied His birth hundreds of years before. It is in Isaiah 7:14. Also there are many instances where the Son of God appears in the Old Testament.
    And the name Yahushua is in the Old Testament, a matter of fact their is a whole book by the name of Yahushua.
     

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