Google pressures Acer to cancel smartphone running Android rival

By Matthew
Sep 13, 2012
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  1. Acer has reportedly postponed the launch of a new smartphone running a Chinese-developed Android competitor because Google threatened to retaliate. The PC maker planned to hold a press conference in Shanghai on Thursday to unveil its CloudMobile A800 handset, which...

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  2. Wizz-Fizz

    Wizz-Fizz TS Rookie Posts: 35   +11

    If this is accurate and true, surely its a clear cut case of Third Line Enforcing
  3. Wow. What a bully. It's Darth Eric running the new evil Empire????
    mario likes this.
  4. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 594   +50

    I've always held that Google was more "evil" than Apple and Microsoft combined.
    Archean and mario like this.
  5. How come it doesn't say what exactly about the OS was so bad in this story?
  6. penn919

    penn919 TS Booster Posts: 176   +18

    While I definitely don't like the smell of this, it's certainly better than stamping out your competition by lawsuits. However, Wagan8r is right. I would like to know more of the details.
  7. Chazz

    Chazz TS Evangelist Posts: 668   +72

    How is threatening financial harm in order to stamp out the competition better than taking a legal route? This is anti-competitive and illegal in a lot of markets.
  8. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,681   +86

    ACER capitulated without much fight I guess, which also shows that it is finding it difficult to make a space for itself in the mobile sector (by putting all its eggs in the Google's basket).
  9. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 304   +62

    I used to think that, but Google is actually well known for giving away their products for free or making better products at low prices (google fiber is a good example of both). They seem to live true to their goal of making the world's information accessible to everyone.

    In this case I was disappointed at first, but look at it from Google's position. Your business partner is going to stop using your os (a giant source of revenue for you) to indulge in some foreign brand and you're just supposed to support them as usual? Of course not. But they aren't forcing Acer's hand by going after them in court or threatening to destroy them. They're just saying if you don't support our products then we will just take our business to someone who will. That's a perfectly reasonable stance for a company to take.
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  10. All the big companies are evil, some are just better than others at hiding it.
  11. Wizz-Fizz

    Wizz-Fizz TS Rookie Posts: 35   +11

    Now that I have read your comment, I can see both sides of the argument.

    The headline of this article put a very negative connotation to what follows in the story, and the wording of the article is also very forceful and negative, using words like "Threatened" "Terminate" and was very open ended with the line " its Android-related cooperation and other technology licensing"

    It very much paints Google in a "Big Bad Corporation" light and Acer as the "Poor Victim"

    I will take the information in this article in the spirit I am sure it was meant.... Impartiality
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  12. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Guru Posts: 509   +35

    I won't comment until I know the whole story (which is asinine because I'm commenting right now!) BUT I will say I don't see why Google would do something like this for the Aliyun OS but not something such as Windows Phone. They're both OS's are they not?
  13. You guys seem to have a short memory when it comes to Google in China. China is the bad guy here. Google is trying to prevent itself getting screwed by the Chinese once again, so it's making Acer choose sides. Acer chose wisely imo.
  14. Exactly..we don't know the whole story. It's possible that Acer had a certain agreement with Google and was now trying to double dip; who knows.
    The less things coming from the asian markets, the better - lets bring jobs back home!!
  15. Chazz

    Chazz TS Evangelist Posts: 668   +72

    Really guys? This is very Anti-competitive. Microsoft got convicted for using some of the same tatics. Acer is not going to ditch Android, they are just trying to differentiate their business. Same as samsung using bada and windows OS alongside Android. Google has no place threatening them. I thought Android was supposed to be open and Google was supposed to do no evil. This is going against both.

    Acer should be allowed to offer what they want without being blackmailed. It's crazy that you could blame the editors for reporting a story like it is.
  16. You do realize that this 'foreign' OS is just a fork of android, right? And that probably has google upset. I would be.

    And since Acer is a partner with google now in developing devices that run on android, google has every right to deny ASSISTANCE to acer for android developement for any reason whatsoever. And no way is acer ever going to call that coercion. There is no way google can STOP acer from making and selling whatever they want to make, including android, but Google is not obligated to ASSIST them in that developement. And that is what is at issue here. Google told them if you go with this forked project, we won't help you with your devices running Real Android. geeze.
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  17. Chazz

    Chazz TS Evangelist Posts: 668   +72

    And they do the same to samsung right? Or HTC? How about LG? They're throwing their weight around. Chinese citizens are more likely to use a product homemade and google is afraid of that. Just look at the popular search engine in china. Baida dominates Google. This is low, It's a sad day when a company is able to use moves that the "evil" Microsoft did and get praises for it. I really did expect more from google.
  18. Why blame on Google? It's clearly that it's Acer's fault. Once you are partnering with other company then create a similar (or fork) products. It is reasonable for Google to cut the partnership as it is showing that Acer wants to create their own OS, but it doesn't stop from Acer to contiune sell their smartphone with Android anyway. Hences for Android license that allows them to as Amazon has done it.
  19. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Evangelist Posts: 899   +15

    Wow, am I the only one who loves its design? curve top and bottom has always been my favorite. it doesnt looks like a low-end device (e.g. acer allegro) too. if only it runs windows phone...
  20. likedamaster

    likedamaster TS Enthusiast Posts: 86   +12

    So google has become the tyrant now? Good to know. OS probably looks & works better than Androids juvenile interface. But seriously though, competition is supposed to be good. What were they thinking?
  21. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Guru Posts: 509   +35

    "Compatibility is at the heart of the Android ecosystem and ensures a consistent experience for developers, manufacturers and consumers.

    Non-compatible versions of Android, like Aliyun, weaken the ecosystem. All members of the Open Handset Alliance have committed to building one Android platform and to not ship non-compatible Android devices.

    This does not however, keep OHA members from participating in competing ecosystems."

    Google's Quote ^^^
  22. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,681   +86

    Yet their action means that they want to kill any 'competition' right in its tracks whereby limiting user's choice.

    What if (highly likely IMHO) someday sammy decides to fork out its own version of android (just like Amazon) to lessen its reliance on Google? Remember no body wants to put all of their eggs in just one basket. I think there is a chance that in next two/three years market may change, and Google may not even be in such a position to repeat this type of behavior.
  23. ReederOnTheRun

    ReederOnTheRun TS Booster Posts: 304   +62

    Before we start making accusations, keep in mind what is actually going on here. Google isn't "threatening" any damage. They aren't "killing" any competition. They are recognizing that their partner wants to phase out Google for an incompatible version of android. Obviously, this is not what business partners should be doing. So if Acer does go through with it, Google won't be attacking them or the new phone, they will simply let Acer and their new partner fend for themselves.

    Acer is its own company. It's not Google's responsibility to support it, especially under these circumstances.
  24. RajeGera

    RajeGera TS Rookie Posts: 50

    If this is is definitely misusing its power in bringing down the competition.
  25. Camikazi

    Camikazi TS Maniac Posts: 797   +217

    Acer violated OHA guidelines by using Aliyun and Google reminded them of it, that is why Acer backed off so quickly and without a fight.

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