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I LOL'd and then I LOL'd again!
thank you for that davimous!!Though, a single white male is at the top of the minority list...they're almost extinct.
Google releases diversity data, and it isn't good
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I LOL'd and then I LOL'd again!
thank you for that davimous!!Though, a single white male is at the top of the minority list...they're almost extinct.
I'm currently studying for my degree in Information Assurance (cybersecurity, for those who aren't familiar), but I'm around a ton of Computer Science students since our majors are relatively similar. Most of the students studying tech-related degrees at my college are white or Asian males, there are very few Hispanics, African Americans, or females in the upper-level courses. The industry can't hire people that aren't trained to work in that industry, as other people have said before.
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As one of the most successful companies in the world, should this be the ethnic template for all companies striving to be successful?
Not for ethnic reasons. As one of the most successful companies in the world, this should be the economical and personal goal for those interested. For any race, any color. Not for the reason of 'diversity in the workplace.'
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No one ever cares about black on back crime enough to do anything about it
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Welcome to being a minority.
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"For example, women earn around 18 percent of all computer science degrees in the United States, while Blacks and Hispanics constitute less than 10 percent of U.S. college grads, and collect fewer than 5 percent of degrees in CS majors."
the reason why diversity is supposedly not equal is spelled out right there and the reason is a good one lol. women earn 18%........thats not very flattering considering there are more women than men in the world. hispanics and blacks are at 10% and only 5 of that 10% are cs majors. those numbers are even sadder. you cant expect to fill a company with the same amount of blacks and hispanics as other diversities with those horrible figures. you would lose money. this article just seems like another "everyone is racist" article. figures are figures and quite frankly the women, blacks and hispanics are doing very poorly. they didnt event reach 50% with all 3 figures combined. in my school........that would be a fail. try harder or accept youre not cut out for this type of career
the reason why diversity is supposedly not equal is spelled out right there and the reason is a good one lol. women earn 18%........thats not very flattering considering there are more women than men in the world. hispanics and blacks are at 10% and only 5 of that 10% are cs majors. those numbers are even sadder. you cant expect to fill a company with the same amount of blacks and hispanics as other diversities with those horrible figures. you would lose money. this article just seems like another "everyone is racist" article. figures are figures and quite frankly the women, blacks and hispanics are doing very poorly. they didnt event reach 50% with all 3 figures combined. in my school........that would be a fail. try harder or accept youre not cut out for this type of career
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On a completely different level, I would be appalled if I were a woman, and I KNEW that the only reason I got a job is because I'm a woman and they need to take me on to not be seen as sexist.
Now, imagine another scenario, where nobody is required to take on people because of their appearance/gender. But they hire a woman "because she's a woman." That would be pretty darn sexist. So one could very easily argue that it's more demeaning and objectifying to take a woman on PURELY AND COMPLETELY because she is a woman.
Having said that, I don't know if Google have taken on in majority men, because it has a sexist culture (to me, unlikely) or if more men take technology degrees than women, so more men would be hired than woman for obvious reasons.
Now, imagine another scenario, where nobody is required to take on people because of their appearance/gender. But they hire a woman "because she's a woman." That would be pretty darn sexist. So one could very easily argue that it's more demeaning and objectifying to take a woman on PURELY AND COMPLETELY because she is a woman.
Having said that, I don't know if Google have taken on in majority men, because it has a sexist culture (to me, unlikely) or if more men take technology degrees than women, so more men would be hired than woman for obvious reasons.
Why does everyone and everything have to be divers? How many white women work for BET? Who really cares....if you want the job earn it!
As an African-American man who works at a university in a technical capacity these findings don't surprise me but I think there a few reasons that explain this. One is that very few women study computer science or receive degrees in it (I don't have any hard data to back this up; I just going off what I've observed overall) because they're probably not interested in the subject. Granted you don't have to have a computer science degree to work at any tech company but I'm sure it helps at place like Google.
A second reason maybe that African-Americans pursue other careers in technology (network security and administration or desktop support as examples) that place them in elsewhere. They also may not have the connections to get a foot in the door at companies like Google since finding work is based on who you know as much as what you know (not the case all the time but it does matter). This article seem to have touched a nerve with some posters who cite working harder or majoring in something more technical while in college; to this I say check yourselves and history first. This country was built off the exploitation of the labor of African-Americans and their disenfranchisement from society which largely gave white males a huge leg-up in terms of jobs, education, and wealth building (you can believe whatever myths about rugged individualism all you want but the truth points to itself).
A second reason maybe that African-Americans pursue other careers in technology (network security and administration or desktop support as examples) that place them in elsewhere. They also may not have the connections to get a foot in the door at companies like Google since finding work is based on who you know as much as what you know (not the case all the time but it does matter). This article seem to have touched a nerve with some posters who cite working harder or majoring in something more technical while in college; to this I say check yourselves and history first. This country was built off the exploitation of the labor of African-Americans and their disenfranchisement from society which largely gave white males a huge leg-up in terms of jobs, education, and wealth building (you can believe whatever myths about rugged individualism all you want but the truth points to itself).
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Ddg4005
Lets make the assumption that Google does not discriminate.
Lets make the assumption that Google employees are exceptional IT people.
Lets make the assumption that Google is a wildly successful company.
This proves that about 1% of Black Americans are exceptional at IT. This is a statement that you world never accept no matter how many times the experiment is repeated. Education and working hard does not instill brilliance. Some companies, like Google, survive by hiring the best people in the world. Other companies do not need the best.
Lets make the assumption that Google does not discriminate.
Lets make the assumption that Google employees are exceptional IT people.
Lets make the assumption that Google is a wildly successful company.
This proves that about 1% of Black Americans are exceptional at IT. This is a statement that you world never accept no matter how many times the experiment is repeated. Education and working hard does not instill brilliance. Some companies, like Google, survive by hiring the best people in the world. Other companies do not need the best.
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davislane1
I eagerly await the day I have my own company, one of these diversity peeps spouts their diversity dogma, and I respond with a very honest, "...don't care". The shock alone will be worth the effort.
In any event, I'm not surprised Google has failed the PC test. Statistically speaking, the only way Google could have jumped this fictitious hurdle would have been to hire a bunch of people (a) from different fields and/or (b) who are unqualified to satisfy their needs.
Skill an initiative have neither skin color nor gender.
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