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GPU overheating - Windows 7

By Romak3
May 17, 2010
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  1. Hi. I actually tried to get help in another forum, but they couldn't help me. I thought maybe I should try here.

    So until a few days ago I was using Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit. Because I didnt format my computer since I bought it (almost 2 years ago) I've decided to do so now and install Windows 7 along the way. Ever since I did so I had nothing but problems. At first, my PCI sound card was incompatible. I saw many other people are experiencing this issue and as there was no solution, I bought a new USB based sound card. Now, when I started playing actual games, I noticed the next issue which is why I started this thread.

    I noticed an overheat when my game crashed. I downloaded EVGA Precision and put my fans on 70% (2600 RPM). I looked at my GPU temperature, it was 60C on desktop when not running anything. That's 10C more than I had with Vista. I tested the crash on two games (Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood and Dead Space). The conclusion was that my GPU reaches 80-81C and crashes. It would crash at that temperature with Vista as well, but in Vista it was 70-74C when playing games so there was no problem. This is +10C I can't get rid of. When I put my fans on 100% it does reduce desktop temperature to 54, but games still reach 80C eventually and crash. Besides, I would never keep my fans on 100% as the sound it makes is unbearable. I also don't want them to break or catch a lot of dust too fast. They worked fine with Vista so they shouldn't be a problem.

    I tried:
    Updating drivers.
    Rolling back to older drivers.
    Cleaning dust.
    Scanning for viruses.
    Disabling file sharing network

    What the hell? Windows 7 should fix problems like that, not cuase them. I already spent 30$ on a new sound card and I really don't feel like rolling back to Vista.

    My system:

    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad (Q9300)
    Graphic Card: Nvidia GeForce 8800GTS (512MB)
    RAM: 4GB

    Please help me :( and thanks
  2. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    80C during gaming on the nVidia 8800 Series is ok. It should not be causing any crashes. My XFX 9800 GT used to have pretty much similar temps to yours when I ran XP.

    What about CPU temps?
  3. Romak3

    Romak3 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks for the reply.

    The CPU temp is okay I think. Wether I'm playing a video games or staying idle the temp of each core is somewhere between 45-55C. Sometimes one of them may raise to 60, nothing extreme I suppose.

    The computer still crashes when it reaches about 80-81C GPU. Highest I encountered was 83 with no crash. I know that some people play with 80-95C GPU with no problem so I always found it odd that mine crashes at 80's regardless of the OS. The point is that something changed when I formatted and install Windows 7, and the heat went up.

    Anyway... all I want is to play games with no crashes and without damaging any of my PC parts. Do you have any more suggestions? I heard I can do something in the BIOS but I'm afraid to play around with things I don't know about.
  4. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    45-55C idle (for each core) is a bit too high.

    Doenload HWMonitor and report the TMPIN0 value that it shows.
  5. Romak3

    Romak3 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    TMPIN0 = 43C (109F)

    Here's everything else HWMonitor shows (PC is idle):

    Code:
    Hardware Monitor 1.0.5.8
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Mainboard Vendor	Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
    Mainboard Model		EP35C-DS3R (0x289 - 0x16C716B0)
    LPCIO
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Vendor			ITE
    Model			IT8718
    Vendor ID		0x90
    Chip ID			0x8718
    Revision ID		0x4
    Config Mode I/O address	0x2E
    
    Dump config mode register space, LDN = 0x4
          0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  A  B  C  D  E  F 
    00   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    10   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    20   87 18 04 10 00 01 DF 3F 03 88 01 00 1D 00 00 00 
    30   01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    40   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    50   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    60   02 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    70   00 02 00 00 04 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
    
    
    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------
    
    ITE IT87 hardware monitor
    
    Voltage sensor 0	1.10 Volts [0x45] (CPU VCORE)
    Voltage sensor 1	1.92 Volts [0x78] (VIN1)
    Voltage sensor 2	3.34 Volts [0xD1] (+3.3V)
    Voltage sensor 3	5.08 Volts [0xBD] (+5V)
    Voltage sensor 4	0.38 Volts [0x6] (+12V)
    Voltage sensor 6	-0.32 Volts [0x5] (-5V)
    Voltage sensor 7	5.13 Volts [0xBF] (+5V VCCH)
    Voltage sensor 8	3.26 Volts [0xCC] (VBAT)
    Temperature sensor 0	43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (TMPIN0)
    Temperature sensor 1	23°C (73°F) [0x17] (TMPIN1)
    Fan sensor 0		1259 RPM [0x218] (FANIN0)
    
    Dump hardware monitor
    LPC Register space, base address = 0x0290
    
          0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  A  B  C  D  E  F 
    00   13 10 20 00 FF FF 00 37 FF 87 54 09 17 17 FF FF 
    10   FF FF FF 76 D7 FD FC FD 02 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    20   45 78 D1 BD 07 00 05 BF CC 2B 17 FE 80 F7 FA FA 
    30   FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 16 FF 00 FF 00 
    40   7F 7F 7F 7F 7F 7F 5F 74 2D 40 9C 22 FF FF FF FF 
    50   FF 2A 7F 7F 7F 50 F6 F6 90 F6 08 12 60 00 00 00 
    60   00 14 41 23 90 03 FF FF 00 14 41 23 90 03 FF FF 
    70   00 14 41 23 90 03 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    80   6A 02 00 00 FF FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 
    90   FF 00 00 00 FF 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    A0   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    B0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    C0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    D0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    E0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    F0   FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 
    
    
    
    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------
    
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 hardware monitor
    
    Temperature sensor 0	57°C (134°F) [0x30] (core #0)
    Temperature sensor 1	50°C (121°F) [0x37] (core #1)
    Temperature sensor 2	49°C (120°F) [0x38] (core #2)
    Temperature sensor 3	55°C (130°F) [0x32] (core #3)
    
    Dump hardware monitor
    
    
    
    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------
    
    GeForce 8800 GTS 512 hardware monitor
    
    Temperature sensor 0	58°C (136°F) [0x3A] (GPU Core)
    
    Dump hardware monitor
    
    
    
    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------
    
    WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0 hardware monitor
    
    Temperature sensor 0	36°C (96°F) [0x24] (HDD)
    
    Dump hardware monitor
    
    
    Processors Map
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Number of processors	1
    Number of threads	4
    
    Processor 0
        -- Core 0
            -- Thread 0
        -- Core 1
            -- Thread 0
        -- Core 2
            -- Thread 0
        -- Core 3
            -- Thread 0
    
    
    Processors Information
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Processor 1 (ID = 0)
    Number of cores		4
    Number of threads	4 (max 4)
    Name			Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300
    Codename		Yorkfield
    Specification		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9300  @ 2.50GHz
    Package			Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)
    CPUID			6.7.7
    Extended CPUID		6.17
    Core Stepping		
    Technology		45 nm
    Core Speed		1999.8 MHz
    Stock frequency		2500 MHz
    Instructions sets	MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
    L1 Data cache		4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L1 Instruction cache	4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    L2 cache		2 x 3072 KBytes, 12-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    FID/VID Control		yes
    FID range		6.0x - 7.5x
    max VID			1.113 V
    Features		XD, VT
    
    
    Thread dumps
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    CPU Thread 0
    APIC ID			0
    Topology		Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
    Type			01008005h
    Max CPUID level		0000000Ah
    Max CPUID ext. level	80000008h
    
    Function		eax		ebx		ecx		edx
    0x00000000		0x0000000A	0x756E6547	0x6C65746E	0x49656E69
    0x00000001		0x00010677	0x00040800	0x0008E3FD	0xBFEBFBFF
    0x00000002		0x05B0B101	0x005657F0	0x00000000	0x2CB43048
    0x00000003		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000004		0x0C000121	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C000122	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C004143	0x02C0003F	0x00000FFF	0x00000001
    0x00000005		0x00000040	0x00000040	0x00000003	0x00000020
    0x00000006		0x00000001	0x00000002	0x00000001	0x00000000
    0x00000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000008		0x00000400	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000009		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x0000000A		0x07280202	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000503
    0x80000000		0x80000008	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000001		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000001	0x20100000
    0x80000002		0x65746E49	0x2952286C	0x726F4320	0x4D542865
    0x80000003		0x51203229	0x20646175	0x55504320	0x51202020
    0x80000004		0x30303339	0x20402020	0x30352E32	0x007A4847
    0x80000005		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000006		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x0C006040	0x00000000
    0x80000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000008		0x00003024	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 D	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 I	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 2 U	3 MB	2 threads	
    
    MSR 0x0000001B		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xFEE00900
    MSR 0x000000E8		edx = 0x0000003B	eax = 0xFC71BF2A
    MSR 0x00000017		edx = 0x08100000	eax = 0xA9C4C720
    MSR 0x000000CD		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000804
    MSR 0x0000003F		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000000
    MSR 0x000000CE		edx = 0x001A4720	eax = 0x7F7F0718
    MSR 0x000001A0		edx = 0x00000040	eax = 0x62872489
    MSR 0x000000EE		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x877D5B00
    MSR 0x0000011E		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xBE702119
    MSR 0x0000019C		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x88300000
    MSR 0x00000198		edx = 0x061A4720	eax = 0x06004720
    MSR 0x00000199		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00004720
    
    CPU Thread 1
    APIC ID			1
    Topology		Processor ID 0, Core ID 1, Thread ID 0
    Type			01008005h
    Max CPUID level		0000000Ah
    Max CPUID ext. level	80000008h
    
    Function		eax		ebx		ecx		edx
    0x00000000		0x0000000A	0x756E6547	0x6C65746E	0x49656E69
    0x00000001		0x00010677	0x01040800	0x0008E3FD	0xBFEBFBFF
    0x00000002		0x05B0B101	0x005657F0	0x00000000	0x2CB43048
    0x00000003		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000004		0x0C000121	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C000122	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C004143	0x02C0003F	0x00000FFF	0x00000001
    0x00000005		0x00000040	0x00000040	0x00000003	0x00000020
    0x00000006		0x00000001	0x00000002	0x00000001	0x00000000
    0x00000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000008		0x00000400	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000009		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x0000000A		0x07280202	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000503
    0x80000000		0x80000008	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000001		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000001	0x20100000
    0x80000002		0x65746E49	0x2952286C	0x726F4320	0x4D542865
    0x80000003		0x51203229	0x20646175	0x55504320	0x51202020
    0x80000004		0x30303339	0x20402020	0x30352E32	0x007A4847
    0x80000005		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000006		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x0C006040	0x00000000
    0x80000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000008		0x00003024	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 D	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 I	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 2 U	3 MB	2 threads	
    
    MSR 0x0000001B		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xFEE00800
    MSR 0x000000E8		edx = 0x0000001F	eax = 0xAE97212E
    MSR 0x00000017		edx = 0x08100000	eax = 0xA9C4C720
    MSR 0x000000CD		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000804
    MSR 0x0000003F		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000000
    MSR 0x000000CE		edx = 0x001A4720	eax = 0x7F7F0718
    MSR 0x000001A0		edx = 0x00000040	eax = 0x62872489
    MSR 0x000000EE		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x877D5B00
    MSR 0x0000011E		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xBE702119
    MSR 0x0000019C		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x88370000
    MSR 0x00000198		edx = 0x061A4720	eax = 0x0600061A
    MSR 0x00000199		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x0000461A
    
    CPU Thread 2
    APIC ID			2
    Topology		Processor ID 0, Core ID 2, Thread ID 0
    Type			01008005h
    Max CPUID level		0000000Ah
    Max CPUID ext. level	80000008h
    
    Function		eax		ebx		ecx		edx
    0x00000000		0x0000000A	0x756E6547	0x6C65746E	0x49656E69
    0x00000001		0x00010677	0x02040800	0x0008E3FD	0xBFEBFBFF
    0x00000002		0x05B0B101	0x005657F0	0x00000000	0x2CB43048
    0x00000003		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000004		0x0C000121	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C000122	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C004143	0x02C0003F	0x00000FFF	0x00000001
    0x00000005		0x00000040	0x00000040	0x00000003	0x00000020
    0x00000006		0x00000001	0x00000002	0x00000001	0x00000000
    0x00000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000008		0x00000400	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000009		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x0000000A		0x07280202	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000503
    0x80000000		0x80000008	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000001		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000001	0x20100000
    0x80000002		0x65746E49	0x2952286C	0x726F4320	0x4D542865
    0x80000003		0x51203229	0x20646175	0x55504320	0x51202020
    0x80000004		0x30303339	0x20402020	0x30352E32	0x007A4847
    0x80000005		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000006		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x0C006040	0x00000000
    0x80000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000008		0x00003024	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 D	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 I	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 2 U	3 MB	2 threads	
    
    MSR 0x0000001B		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xFEE00800
    MSR 0x000000E8		edx = 0x00000024	eax = 0xF9FC48E8
    MSR 0x00000017		edx = 0x08100000	eax = 0xA9C4C720
    MSR 0x000000CD		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000804
    MSR 0x0000003F		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000000
    MSR 0x000000CE		edx = 0x001A4720	eax = 0x7F7F0718
    MSR 0x000001A0		edx = 0x00000040	eax = 0x62852489
    MSR 0x000000EE		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x877D5B00
    MSR 0x0000011E		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xBE702119
    MSR 0x0000019C		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x88380000
    MSR 0x00000198		edx = 0x061A4720	eax = 0x0600061A
    MSR 0x00000199		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x0000461A
    
    CPU Thread 3
    APIC ID			3
    Topology		Processor ID 0, Core ID 3, Thread ID 0
    Type			01008005h
    Max CPUID level		0000000Ah
    Max CPUID ext. level	80000008h
    
    Function		eax		ebx		ecx		edx
    0x00000000		0x0000000A	0x756E6547	0x6C65746E	0x49656E69
    0x00000001		0x00010677	0x03040800	0x0008E3FD	0xBFEBFBFF
    0x00000002		0x05B0B101	0x005657F0	0x00000000	0x2CB43048
    0x00000003		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000004		0x0C000121	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C000122	0x01C0003F	0x0000003F	0x00000001
    0x00000004		0x0C004143	0x02C0003F	0x00000FFF	0x00000001
    0x00000005		0x00000040	0x00000040	0x00000003	0x00000020
    0x00000006		0x00000001	0x00000002	0x00000001	0x00000000
    0x00000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000008		0x00000400	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x00000009		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x0000000A		0x07280202	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000503
    0x80000000		0x80000008	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000001		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000001	0x20100000
    0x80000002		0x65746E49	0x2952286C	0x726F4320	0x4D542865
    0x80000003		0x51203229	0x20646175	0x55504320	0x51202020
    0x80000004		0x30303339	0x20402020	0x30352E32	0x007A4847
    0x80000005		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000006		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x0C006040	0x00000000
    0x80000007		0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    0x80000008		0x00003024	0x00000000	0x00000000	0x00000000
    
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 D	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 1 I	32 KB	1 threads	
    Cache descriptor	Level 2 U	3 MB	2 threads	
    
    MSR 0x0000001B		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xFEE00800
    MSR 0x000000E8		edx = 0x0000002B	eax = 0xF154B6E9
    MSR 0x00000017		edx = 0x08100000	eax = 0xA9C4C720
    MSR 0x000000CD		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000804
    MSR 0x0000003F		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x00000000
    MSR 0x000000CE		edx = 0x001A4720	eax = 0x7F7F0718
    MSR 0x000001A0		edx = 0x00000040	eax = 0x62852489
    MSR 0x000000EE		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x877D5B00
    MSR 0x0000011E		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0xBE702119
    MSR 0x0000019C		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x88320000
    MSR 0x00000198		edx = 0x061A4720	eax = 0x0600061A
    MSR 0x00000199		edx = 0x00000000	eax = 0x0000461A
    
    
    
    Drive
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Name			WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0
    
  6. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Those core temperatures are way too high for idle. They'll be soaring during gaming. I have a feeling that your thermal paste on your heat sink has dried up.

    I suggest you take off the HSF carefully. Then clean the remnant TIM from the CPU ans HSF. Ensure that nothing drips onto the mobo while cleaning. Apply TIM afresh and put the HSF back in place. Read up a little online on how exactly to go about it. You must be very cautious.

    If temperatures still don't improve look to get a better heat sink and fan for the CPU. The games are probably crashing due to high CPU temps.

    Please post the TMPIN0 value that you see in HWMonitor once please.
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