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Half-Life 2 benchmarks revealed...

By PreservedSwine
Sep 13, 2003
  1. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    This stuff has already been posted in the hl2 thread.

    Those tests weren't using nvidias dx9 tuned drivers, so its a bit premature to gloat. Here are some alternative benchmarks using the detonator 50s that will soon be released ...

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  2. PreservedSwine

    PreservedSwine TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 375

    You mean the DET. 50's that also use:

    -Camera path-specific occlusion culling
    -Visual quality tradeoffs
    -e.g. lowered filtering quality, disabling fog
    -Screen-grab specific image rendering
    -Lower rendering precision
    -Algorithmic detection and replacement
    -Scene-specific handling of z writes
    -Benchmark-specific drivers that never ship
    -App-specific and version specific optimizations that are very fragile


    And revert many PS2.0 operations back to PS1.4? Read nVidia's own words:
    http://www.driverheaven.net/articles/aquamark3/index3.htm


    http://www.techreport.com/

    Also, read DH's report on Aqua-MArk3 and the DET50's in testing w/ aquamark3, a BENCHMARK:


    their conclusion about the DET. 50's
    I don;t see how a driver set that dumbs down IQ in a benchmartk can be used in a valid fashion for comarisons..kind of defeats the puprose, don't you think?

    Another conclusion from 3DGPU
    http://www.3dgpu.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=74&page=0


    How about other develpers, and what they think?

    Lead Developer of Silent Hill Speaks out.

    http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7873

    Remember what nVidia did to futuremark when they published that nVidia was cheating.......I don't think they will succeed with VALVE in the same fashion, but they will try.....it's not drivers, it's poor hardware choices, what I've been trying to explain to you all along...not enough FP registers and a 4x2 design that operates like a 2x2 design in DX9

    EDIT: If you're really inot the GPU side of compuiers, I'd suggest a visit to nVidia's fan website, www.nvnews.net and www.beyond3d.com... I think after reading from many of the developers @B3D, you'll understand the NV3X has made some very poor hardware choices for DX9 app's...they underestimated the amount of time b4 real DX9 apps would come, and underestimated the R300 core....and it's dedicated FP registers

    now off to find the HL2 thread..this has been about the only part of the forum I visit:)
     
  3. Dantrag

    Dantrag TS Enthusiast Posts: 262

    yeah and the 9800 pro still is faster :D. i'm happy i got the 9800pro lucky i didn't have the money for the 5900:)
     
  4. Greeno

    Greeno TS Rookie Posts: 394

    *sniff* I still love NVIDIA :(

    I'm a fan boy...i can admit that, and although, I know the Radeon 9800Pro is by far and away the best card avail...I'm still gonna wait, I aint owned in ATI card a 32Mb Rage card I used to have... before that, i was a big 3DFX man :) and I wouldnt leave them til they went either :(
     
  5. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    Now that's what I call loyalty. The thread starter is also a fanboy, but its ATI that he likes. [I can just hear the flaming about to start :=)]
     
  6. PreservedSwine

    PreservedSwine TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 375


    Nic, as soon as nVidia makes the better card, that's what I'll buy. You'll find no loyalty to a piece of computer hardware on this end.


    Instead of name-calling, try focusing on features and performance...


    ~swine
     
  7. Steg

    Steg TS Rookie Posts: 422

    im with greeno - im a big nvidia fan - and before 3dfx lost it I was a big 3dfx fan (ahh....my first 3d accelerator with OpenGL support - 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 - quake 3 never looked so good!)
    im really not sure what to do - i need a new graphics card for HL2 and Doom 3 and i dont want to leave nvidia - but it looks like i might have 2 - but it would be awful to think ATi won an big nvidia fan over.....

    Steg
     
  8. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    Steg: You can always wait for nv40 to come out :=). HL2 will still be there for you when you are ready for it.

    Ok. Your performance was amazing, and your features, I can't see from here. :D
     
  9. iss

    iss TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,896

    I was a big nvidia fan for years never even considered ATI as being even a reasonable choce for a video card. while I do play games I watch more DVD's than I do game playing and ATI's DVD playback is superb.

    my affection for Nvidia ended with the Geforce4 line of cards which are still good cards and are a better choice for someone who just has to have a Nvidia card. personally I would touch a FX series card with a ten foot pole.
     
  10. Asphix

    Asphix TS Rookie

    man.. i bought a 5900 ultra a couple months ago and i feel so cheated.. yeah.. great.. it will run doom 3 awesome but whats the point of spending 500 bucks for one freakin game.. i know theres no way to fix this.. it would be cool if ATI had an offer where you could turn in your geforce FX for a radeon for 150.00 USD off of the purchase.. then they could make a giant mound of FX's and burn them as well as win a lot of converts.

    Its nice to have people dedicated to a company.. but what nvidia has been doing is really wrong. We've been lied to and played for fools.. as is if nothing is done, or not REAL response other than the BS nvidia has been putting out, this nvidia fan (since the days of the TNT and TNT2) will be packing up, dealing with the 500 dollar loss and never look back.
     
     
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