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Hdd

By eyemfedup2
Sep 19, 2008
  1. is there a way of putting 2 hdd's togeather and makeing the computer think
    that it is one big hard drive?
    i installed a sec hdd as a slave but did not get what i was looking for.
    thanks
     
  2. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    that is called RAID. u either have to have a MOBO with the function or by a pci controller.
     
  3. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

  4. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    just downloaded new bios supposed to have raid drivers.
    i am vaigue about what raid is and how to do it could you baybe explain a little and point me in the right way?
    i think its supposed to support 0, 1, 2, 3 or something to that effect.
    to do what i'm trying to accomplish both hdd's have to be the same right?
    wich raid am i needing to use and how to you set it up?
    covered raid in class but only what kinds there were but not how
    thanks
     
  5. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    It is wisest not to use Raid, if you are unsure about it
    Raid can remove your entire OS and data

    If you still want to learn to use it, there's lots at Google searches, but again, I wouldn't.
    Just use the secondary drive as a backup drive
     
  6. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    raid 0 or 5

    OK took your advice and googled and read allot of stuff but I'm still unclear
    besides redundancy, which would have better performance... raid 0 or 5
    or one big fat hard drive.
    i understand why a business would use it for redundancy but as for a
    simple workstation only wanting not to have to worry about filling up a hard drive
    and just wanting to keep it easy and just have one c: drive so to speak
    but wanting to have the best performance IE speed of read/write and access
    time. allot of vide recording and stuff
    which one would be cheaper also would like to start tomorrow
    thanks your help is much appreciated
     
  7. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

  8. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    but which one would be better, buy big hard drive or do raid? don't care about redundancy
    at this point just speed / performance ? i guess that the main question
     
  9. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 923   +11

    RAID 0 would speed up the computer with two hard drives for gaming and the like. it would be faster than a big hard drive.
     
  10. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    so if i want 300gb with redundancy i use raid 5 and tomorrow i go to say best buy or computer store and buy how many raid cards (i need 3 drives right?)
    and three 150 gb hdd's or do i buy two 150's and one 350gb


    if raid 0 one card and two 150's correct?

    please be patient i don't want to mess it up i plan on shopping tomorrow
     
  11. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    come on guys don't give up on me yet we are almost there i think i'm about to figure out what to do. i forgot to ask i think can i do raid 0 or 5 with xp pro or do i have to buy new os
    i seem to remember it loading or giving me the option to load raid drivers on install of xp pro
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    Looks like your board supports Raid already
    Therefore you just need two same size HardDrives
    You may need to download your Manual to see which Sata ports are the Raid ports on your Motherboard

    Plug the two HardDrives in to the respective Sata ports on the Motherboard
    Go into your CMOS Setup (DEL or some key on system startup)
    Enable Raid
    Go from there
     
  13. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    cool
    so to make it clear to my inpenatrable brain
    i can do this with xp pro and is more efficient than one big hard drive right?
     
  14. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    ok to be sure that i understand this properly
    i can do this with hp pro and it is more efficient than one big fat hard drive.....right
    i don't need new software?

    have to make this longer ok but not to overlook first question ok


    will this effect my video? posted question on proper link but video is for the lack of a better word jittery or robotic.
    approx 1500mhz cpu
    even overclocked to 2300mhz (cpu cool used nvidia x 4 selection) 200mhz front bus speed
    high speed inter net

    have stock gateway desktop and hp laptop both approx 1500mhz cpu and they out perform
    computer in main subject.

    thought maybe bios to old or hard drive to full for virtual memory. not the case; removed
    enough stuff to have 8 gb open

    browser slower than it should be IE7 downloads slower than other two computers and
    during video playback (Internet) hdd light flickers allot which leads me to believe hdd
    2 slow or something like that. other two out perform same line same basic settings
    ????? even upgraded bios and i that you guys very much for that info.
    specs listed in drop down selection if needed.

    please answer fist question first as i used lenghten reply to cover overall but secondary
    question.
    thanks
     
  15. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    Oh yeah I keep forgetting to answer
    Yes works with Xp anything

    Also everything (drivers and display, you name it) will be the same, except system overall faster.
    Only issue is it can put more work on each HardDrive, and if one fails, all your system software will be gone (ie using Raid 0)
     
  16. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    it will be the same as normal computer running on one hard drive correct? (raid 0)

    if i use raid 5 for redundancy
    A: do i need a card B: are all hdd's the same or say 150gb 150 gb and 300
    for the third one? or do i just need another 150gb for redundancy.
    c:same question xp pro ok for raid 5?
    d: if i use raid 0 can i gost or back up like i only had one drive? this question for another time
    but I've never understood how to back up an entire disk so that in the event of a catastrophic
    meltdown so that i dont have to start from scratch, so I've been winging it anyway.
     
  17. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

    Ghost should work fine with hardware RAID, but not with software RAID (cuz the OS creates the stripe, and you don't have your OS in DOS).
    Not sure if Symantec supports it either, you will need Ghost Server

    I'm concerned that I cannot answer your questions in depth
    1. It would take take too long, and the answers are very in depth
    2. Raid requires a lot of experience to use and experiment with.

    There are drivers; settings; OS limitations; Software/Hardware; Striping; Mirroring; Raid types; backup (which is not all that good in certain configurations); warnings. Really the list is big, of issues to deal with.
    In most cases it's best not to use Raid if you are unsure.
    I cannot provide anymore indepth information (or even answer single questions all the time) there's just too much info that goes with Raid, and if I miss one point, I could be counted as misleading you. There's no simple answers here.
     
  18. eyemfedup2

    eyemfedup2 TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 69

    i appreciate you guys so very much your a GOD send
    i haven't received any input on other questions about video problems or browser ie7 to slow
    downloads are very slow after sp3 install especially(deraged and system cleanup before install per directions) Mobo: KT333-8235 i haven't found a site that wont charge an arm and and leg for manual can you help?
    if all else fails read thee instructions :) LOL


    video? posted question on proper link but video is for the lack of a better word jittery or robotic.
    approx 1500mhz cpu
    even overclocked to 2300mhz (cpu cool used nvidia x 4 selection) 200mhz front bus speed
    high speed inter net

    have stock gateway desktop and hp laptop both approx 1500mhz cpu and they out perform
    computer in main subject.

    thought maybe bios to old or hard drive to full for virtual memory. not the case; removed
    enough stuff to have 8 gb open

    browser slower than it should be IE7 downloads slower than other two computers and
    during video playback (Internet) hdd light flickers allot which leads me to believe hdd
    2 slow or something like that. other two out perform same line same basic settings
    ????? even upgraded bios and i that you guys very much for that info.
    specs listed in drop down selection if needed.
    help
    thanks i have fath i you :)
     
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