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HELP! A XP2100+ - default temp 62-69°C!

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by hdmk, Dec 26, 2002.

  1. Nick Newcomer, in training Posts: 216

    Rick why would you need all those fans? Right now I have my AMD xp 1600 oced to 1.6 ghz without any problems and running at 37*c. The only case fan is the power supply fan however i have a 7800 rpm heatsink that i let go full blast (people say it would be loud, not loud at all to me.)

    I really don't see why you would need so many fans, unless your system really is too hot...
  2. Maximus Newcomer, in training Posts: 63

    I can't stress this enough, make sure the heatsink isn't on backwards. This might be causing those abnormal temperatures. And I agree with Nick, you reall don't need 50 fans in your computer. I only have a power supply fan and a stock AMD cooler. My temps are at about 37C-42C and 24C system temperature, I also have th side of my case off to let all the excess heat go out. Try that, and for the last time, MAKE SURE THE FAN/HEATSIK ISN'T ON BACKWARDS!!!!!
  3. palmboy5 Newcomer, in training Posts: 112

    case off would make the air circulation mess up...
  4. Maximus Newcomer, in training Posts: 63

    It was in fact recommended by the people that I bought the case, processor etc. from, that I should take the case off instead of buying another cooler. Plus I've never had any problems I dont know why he should.
  5. Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,247   +38

    If you are talking about the "four fans" idea.. That was Vehementi that suggested that. I suggested one intake and one exhaust which is by no means extravagant... It's pretty standard.

    The reasons I recommend at least 2 fans is for proper case temperatures is not solely for your CPU. Your temperatures are abnormally low, and whether that is misinformation or you just have really low room tempertaures.. Not many people idle at 37*C. Imagine how cool it would be with two case fans! :) The fact you have a very powerful CPU fan is also something that not everyone has or wants.

    My main concern would be hard disk drives. Espcially systems with drives sandwiched together. Unlike most of the other parts of your system they are mechanical and wear down with heat. If you indeed have no case fans, that hard drive is stewing in its own heat.. The platter is contracting and expanding with each shut-off of your system because of the variances between high and low temps, lowering the hard disk life of your computer. Maybe you'll never notice it - maybe it will blow up tomorrow - But if you value your computer, its components and your data, proper cooling helps run your system safely and optimally.

    Hot components run slower, live shorter and cause problems. Your CPU is not that the only thing in your system that gets hot and two extra case fans can go a long way in maintaining your system's health and performance.

    The main thing here though, is that his CPU IS too hot. While your CPU is not, he must do something about it. Two case fans can easily shave off 15*C from his CPU temperature providing he has high ambient temperatures.
  6. Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,199

    There's no air circulation to mess up if you don't have any case fans...
     
  7. StormBringer Newcomer, in training Posts: 2,871

    I'd like to know where some of you are getting your cooling info. It surely isn't from experience. Using 10, 20, or 50 fans (I know it is an exageration but..) this is rediculuous. The more fans you add, the more difficult it is to control the airflow without creating "dead air", which are places where air gets trapped because of the turbulence of all the fans blowing in different directions. I've seen many cases that have several fans, in the side panel alone, but, while they look cool, they don't do anything other than hinder the airflow inside the case. If you have a fan in a side panel sucking air out, and it is directly over the CPU fan, it is hindering the CPU fan because the CPU fan is trying to blow air that the other fan is trying to pull away from it. If one of these fans is stron enough, it could stop the other, or at least slow it down and eventually burn it up. There are correct ways of venting and ducting when using that many fans but it is not necessary if you can acomplish your goal in another way. The most important thing is to move the hot air out and cool air in, which I have tried many times to stress but it seems to be ignored.

    Someone said to remove the cover to increase airflow, this is wrong and will kill any airflow except that of the fans. Areas with no fans will be in dead air. If you remove the cover, you better get a house fan or you're asking for trouble.

    The most intelligent reply I've seen was made by Rick when he explained the effects of heat on the drives. Similar things happen to the solid state components in the system as well. When they get hot and cold, the substrate becomes less stable. This shortens their life.
  8. Nick Newcomer, in training Posts: 216

    Yea i got a hard drive cooler for that rick... =P