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Help Me Overclock My Phenom 9600 Black Edition

By Sev
Sep 10, 2009
  1. Hello, sorry to say i have no idea with what im doing on overclocking a phenom, the whole hex thing messes with my head lol, but ya heres the full low down of current specs

    XFX 750a 1.3 Bios
    Phenom 9600 BE
    2x2 Gig dual chan ocz sli ram 800 mhz < if u know about ram to that would be nice since the other 4 gigs are on the way xD
    1000 watt ultra sli psu
    2x 9800GTX+ in sli
    1TB dying Seagate Barracuda 7200
     
  2. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    You may want to check these out : http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2188777,00.asp
    http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2249942,00.asp

    However, the 9600 does not seem to be a particularly efficient overclocker. Be careful and ensure that you have replaced the stock HSF that ships with the processor with a far better one. Read a few more reviews and benchmarks. I could provide a few more links if you require.

    Also, give a shot to the AMD Overdrive utility. You have an unlocked multiplier in your BE processor and it's a good utility to help you easily OC.
     
  3. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    AMD Overdrive does seem to work with my mobo, i have installed but it says its not a AMD 7-series mobo.. but yet it is.. my computer just hates me, and i got it overclocked to 2.5 stable without editing the voltage i can get it to 2.6 but after a min or 2 it locks up and hangs no bsod thou.... so i really need the hex for the Core VID and all the P-state hex codes.. dont know them hoping i can get the exact ones for my mobo right now im running off of just another forum : http://www.ocia.net/articles/k10overclock/page2.shtml and i have read both those articales before and they dont seem to be of any help.. and my max temp @ load is 54º that ive seen so far and this is with my settings at 220 Mhz HT multiplier 4x HT Bus freq @ 880 mhz
     
  4. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    2.5GHz from 2.3 is a small step up. Anyhow, you could try increasing the Core VID a little bit and then bump up the multiplier. What is your current VID?
     
  5. Jawshh

    Jawshh TS Enthusiast Posts: 438

    Make sure you are using a good CPU cooler.
     
  6. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    Hi sev,
    try these settings *****make sure you monitor cooling***** no really make sure you monitor cooling!
    CPU Vid 1.40
    NB 1.09 - 1.10
    @ 2.8 Ghz
    this assumes that you have sufficient cooling, otherwise this chip is not a good overclocker.
     
  7. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    i have the thermaltake max orb what i need to know thou is the Hex verson of the voltages i got the CPU multiplier saved on favs but dont know the VID and NB hex in the Custom P-States Menu
     
  8. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    my current is 1.3
     
  9. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    ok i found what i think to be the right Hex's said this is from a 730a.. never heard of that board.. lol
    HEX = Volts HEX = Volts
    00 = 1.5500 14 = 1.3000
    01 = 1.5375 15 = 1.2875
    02 = 1.5250 16 = 1.2750
    03 = 1.5125 17 = 1.2625
    04 = 1.5000 18 = 1.2500
    05 = 1.4875 19 = 1.2375
    06 = 1.4750 1A = 1.2250
    07 = 1.4625 1B = 1.2125
    08 = 1.4500 1C = 1.2000
    09 = 1.4375 1D = 1.1875
    0A = 1.4250 1E = 1.1750
    0B = 1.4125 1F = 1.1625
    0C = 1.4000 20 = 1.1500
    0D = 1.3875 21 = 1.1375
    0E = 1.3750 22 = 1.1250
    0F = 1.3625 23 = 1.1125
    10 = 1.3500 24 = 1.1000
    11 = 1.3375 25 = 1.0875
    12 = 1.3250 26 = 1.0750
    13 = 1.3125 27 = 1.0625

    if this is right let me know

    also added is what i think the multiplier is for this board from www.osia.net
     
  10. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    also added from XTREME SYSTEM thread.. from Tony.

    K10 has totally independent clock control over CPU-NB and CPU core. In the DFI bios you will see the following under CPU features.

    CPU DID
    CPU FID

    CPU DID = multiplier divider
    CPU FID = actual multi in HEX

    I mapped some common values out for CPU muti.
    HEX Multi
    00 = 08
    01 = 08.5
    02 = 09
    03 = 09.5
    04 = 10
    05 = 10.5
    06 = 11
    07 = 11.5
    08 = 12
    09 = 12.5
    0A = 13
    0B = 13.5
    0C = 14 ETC

    Now we have a CPU DID also, this can be 1,2,4,8,16

    things get good from 11 onwards using the 2 4 8 or 16 dividers and ODD ratio's

    setting 06 FID and 2 DID will give 5.5, setting 01 FID and DID2 will give 8.25 so yes you can have quarter multipliers also.

    Remember DID1 will give FID/1=FID with no adjustment...2 4 8 16 give the special ratio's

    Moving to NB FID and DID

    NB DID is either 1 or 2


    Hex NB Multi
    00 = 4
    01 = 5
    02 = 6
    03 = 7
    04 = 8
    05 = 9
    06 = 10
    07 = 11
    08 = 12
    09 = 13
    0A = 14
    0B = 15
    0C = 16
    0D = 17 ETC

    Again we can DID or divide by 1 or 2...so 07HEX with DID2 will give 5.5 for the NB Multi

    So how does this translate, well remember HTT is 200 by default so 01HEX=5X
    5X200HTT=1000MHZ
    02HEX=6X so 6x200 for 1.2GHZ etc

    CPU NB and Link Multipliers are unlocked on ALL CPU's, there are rules though.

    HT link speed can NOT exceed NB clock speed, but HT link can be lower than NB core clock.

    NB Clock is what decreases L3 cache latency and so improves performance.

    Overall HTT speed is dependent on many things, NB core clock, HT link and CPU multi, different configs give differing results..we just need to reasrch the best for now.





    i noticed the hex's are differnet since he is also running a different system but it makes the light seem brighter in the dark tunnel of overclocking
     
  11. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    so with all this information could someone give me good settings to get to 2.8 or around there including correct voltages well avg that wont kill my system lol
     
     
  12. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    also another thing i noticed when i lower the mulitplier down to like 10x vista loads does its checking get to the Welcome screen gets threw that but then hangs on loading User ill get to my desktop and then around 30-40 seconds later just freezes any ideas
     
  13. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    10x = 2000mhz if im right
     
  14. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Well I'm not too sure, but using your Hex tables and red's recommended settings @ 2.8GHz it comes to:

    CPU Multiplier : 0c (x14 multiplier as your chip freq is 200MHz)
    CPU VID : 0c (1.4V)
    NB VID : 24 (1.1V)

    Hopefully that's right.
     
  15. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    tried, failed :\ this processor is crap for overclocking.. after i pass 2.5 its either a hang or bsod wtf man!! lol hell ive lowered the muliplier to 8.5x and still after 225 it likes to hang or bsod.. finally got the nvidia control panel to let me change the multiplier.. dont know how but just happened.. and then i lower it there it still says 11.5x but in cpu-z it gets the real or so called real multiplier nvidia says its still @ 2.4~~ cpuz says its @ 1.6 :\ edit in nvidia to 230 BSOD or hang xD this cpu sucks or my mobo is dying hard..
     
  16. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    oh yea and when i edit the mulitplier in bios vista wont even load, it will get pass the boot check but loading desktop it hangs.. could my HDD be causing this cuz it ticks alot and ive been meaning to get a new one but it still runs its just a pain
     
  17. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    and yes the muliplier is right but the VID might not be im not really sure
     
  18. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    Sev,
    are you checking the voltage with CPUZ or something?
     
  19. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    yea cpu-z and speedfan Vcore is running @ 1.27 so 1.3v
     
  20. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    Core temp is 35ºC , CPU is 41ºC, so the temps are good and this is @ 3.3% usage @ 2505.2mhz, x11.5 , 217.9 Bus, 1960mhz HT Bus
     
  21. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    did you try the 1.4v @ 2.8?
     
  22. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    Here is a pic of everything
     

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  23. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

    ya.. didnt work so well
     
  24. Sev

    Sev TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 112

  25. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,906   +90

    unfortunately that may be all there is...its just not a good OC chip...not sure why they made it a BE under the best of circumstances, 2.8 is the best those went. you getting any noticable performance increase from the 2.5?
     
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