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Help me to wisely select a new graphics card

By am21
Nov 19, 2009
  1. my specs

    Intel core 2 duo E7300

    DG31PR Mobo
    http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/DG31PR/DG31PR-overview.htm

    Nvidia 8600GT (Not the actual one, some Chinese fake card which is equivalent to 8400gs)

    i didn't use this pc for almost an year and most of the time this pc is under utilized specifically for things like basic word editing and cd burning. now i have an idea to upgrade it and play gta 4 (not a serious gamer.. just for some occasional gaming) so most of the time i will be sticking with my laptop..

    so wht sort of gfx upgrade is most ideal for me ? eg:- i can afford up to HD 4850 but if i can play it well on a cheaper card it will be an advantage. btw i might also need a psu upgrade since the one i'm using is a generic brandless one :D

    Please advice. Thanks
     
  2. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Yes you will need to upgrade your power supply.

    Now frankly, you won't really be running GTA4 too well on a $120 budget, while the 4850 is strong enough, you have to throw in a power supply into your budget too. Just as a side note, your processor is decent, I think it could be worth investing about $180 for a CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail and a XFX HD-485X-YDFC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail.
     
  3. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    btw HD 4850 will cost me around $105 if it's 4670 around $70

    is there any cheaper alternative suggestions for psu ? $80 or less

    what do you think about this one ?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028
     
  4. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,672   +9

  5. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    I head that HD 4670 can be used with generic psu since it has the ability to draw power from the pci express slot without the need of an additional 6 pin connector. Also performance wise it is somewhat similar to HD 3870 (recommended spec for gta4) so will it be a good option ?

    Saphire Radion HD 4670 512MB DDR4 $57
     
  6. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    You get what you pay for both the 4850 and 4670 are good cards for their cost, and I would have to recommend staying away from generic power supplies.
     
  7. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    isn't $57 a value for money deal ?

    sapphire 512MB DDR4 scores 9500 in 3d mark 06 test where as a 8600GT scores only 6000 (50% gain)

    i just checked youtube and saw many people play gta 4 without a sweat using 8600GT with medium settings.. actually i don't mind playing at lower resolution as long as it is playable.
     
  8. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    I don't know if you understand what I meant.
    Both the 4850 and 4670 are good values for their respective price ranges, just the 4850 is a class above the 4670, meaning it will perform much better.
    Also, I still think that you will likely need a new power supply.
     
  9. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    so what do you think about cooler master extreme power 550w psu ? it comes with dual 12v rails with 20A each :)
     
  10. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Well, cooler master power supplies are not too great in general.
    If you are planning on a 4850, the BFG tech 550 that Ritwik7 posted is minimum.
    However for the 4670, you can go with it if you want, however I would consider the Antec Earthwatts 380, it doesn't look like newwegg has one at the moment though.
     
  11. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    i must check the prices and then consider brands like corsair, ocz, antec, seasonic, bfg, silversone etc ? btw i'm staying in malaysia :)
     
  12. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

    Sorry what are you asking?
    Are you planning on buying a 4850 or 4670?
     
  13. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    well.. since cooler master is nt a good brand i will try to focus on getting a better brand.. yes i knw psu will be a better investment in the long run if i can get it with at least 4 years warranty. btw hd4850 will be my preferred choice as a psu upgrade is already in my list. :)
     
  14. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

  15. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,672   +9

    @ am21 - I thought the BFG Tech I linked to was 550W and better value or money than the 400W Silverstone you're getting.
     
  16. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,435   +145

  17. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    @Ritwik7 - BFG is not widely available here in the local market :(

    @ hellokitty[hk] - Corsaire is slightly overpriced here compared to Silverstone.
     
  18. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

    finally i bought a new psu + gfx card.

    ATI HD4670 1GB version

    PSU specs:

    Epsilon 80PLUS 450 true power out put
    quad +12v rails with 18A each

    ps:- didn't even bother to test my new gfx card with the old psu.. hehe

    so far everything is stable.. :)
     
  19. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

  20. am21

    am21 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 44

  21. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,524

    Oh

    Yes that looks good :grinthumb

    [​IMG]
     
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