Help with mapped drives and XP AV 2008

Guess I wasnt clear, there was never a server, but main pc wiht XP pro on it. We wiped the drive, started over this weekend, and now, got clean backup of it.

Hey. Congrats. Glad to hear you have it working again! :grinthumb

and just a clarification:
- A computer which owns and controls a shared resource (like a mapped drive other machines access) is a server in Windows terminolgoy.
- All the computers accessing it are the clients
- A single computer can be both a client and server if it shares its own resources and also requests access from other machines

In this case, more a transient term for the roles played in client/server data flow.

I am the old school techs where a server to me is a standalone system that no one uses for anything. I was just clarifying, cause didnt know if I had maybe not explained it clearly, but I guess I did and wasnt really paying attention myself. Hated to redo everything, but was time critical, so now am backing the new system up with ghost. Not sure if anyone else has seen big difference, but , I like the old ghost better than the new ones they been putting out.. Might have to try Acronis for my backup solution.

I like Ghost 2003
The only reason I don't like Acronis is because some Acronis files are stored in the image, whereas the older Ghost (used in Dos) doesn't (other than marking the disk to be used with Ghost)

If you are from "old school" you would agree that the external program should not make these intrusive allowances. But no one minds any more.

good ya got all working again.

and, yea, lots of people when hearing the word "server" have an image of some big dedicated hot server running on a network (vs just being a simple term implying just a "role")

by the way, was curious.. if i recall correctly (didn't look back through) it was the main pc runnning xp pro that "owned" the shared drive? What type of sharing is it configured? Still curious from my first question...

(and, btw, i am a big Acronis fan. True Image and Disk Director Suite and also worked well for me....)

tho i never tried Ghost 2003 to compare.. just had 1st tried acronis and stuck with it.

Congratulations on hitting the 1000 LookinAround :grinthumb

HEY! LOL i did, didn't i? Thanks for pointing that out!

But i expected to hear the sound of all those coins flying out like when all those wheels line up on them nickel slots!:haha:

I have tried Acronis disk director , but used to work in school and we had ghost running where I coul dpop in a Cd/DVD image, and it woudl boot from the cd and reinstall the image to any Pc we had in the system, since we had used sysprep. The new ghost now seems to be more geared towards the casual user, or home user. I found Ghost Solution Suite 2.5, but tryig to get it to recognize my WD usb external HD in dos is a pain.
the main pc was using a simple sharing folder for out accounting software package. Peachtree and Dell both couldnt figure it out and Dell even told me on phone while talkign to him he was lookign in Technet on MS site for answers,. which I had already done.

Hmm there was a thread here on Dell and Ghost and connectivity: http://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?t=104998&highlight=Broadcom

so it sounds like you're runnning the pc's as peer-to-peers?

if it's simple sharing many of the variables involved get removed from the puzzle..

but still... those "Access Denied" messages could drive one bonkers given all the possible failure points that might occur between client and server machines!

true, and it was working, till we had the XP antivirus 2008 on the main pc and cleaned it with malwarebytes program. So, did the malware cause it, or the trojan program? which came first, the chicken or the egg, is similiar in driving me bonkers,lol. I am having al users here ask me about things before they just install things

I looked at that post you referred me to kimsland, and that oen deals with network cards and ghost, it looks like, not trying to save a ghost image i dos to a usb drive, but thns. I did see that one when I was looking, cause seen stuff out on internet about how to do it, but nothign seems to work. I want a backup of my computer on the ext usb hdd, so when somethign happens, can just reghost it, I run the ghost install off of a usb flash drive, but might need to try to do it off Cd, then see if that works. If I get this all to work, wil lhave to post here for all the other techs. I find ghost for dos is best for backups, imo.

now that ya have the time to breathe again.....

you might want to look at the debug/trace data you can get by taking advantage of Windows audits. can tell the id sent by client, whether server ran user authentication or Guest, also the message you;ll find in Security Event Log for failure reason generally is much more helpful then what the user sees on the screen (e.g. distinguishing between bad password or and/or userid vs. logon not granted (implies an issue with policy and rights) and some more stuff..

Other handy tool (but don't think it could have helped for the failure).. don't know if use the Shared Folder Management Console? start->run-> fsmgmt.msc

When client / servier connection actually establishes you can see the userid client used PLUS a Y/N Guest Authentication flag so you know where they authenticated as Guest or userid? (tho if ur in simple sharing.. that detail is less important.) but the sum total of info from that console can be helpful

Actually please do.

I'd like to know the big long Ghost command line and what drivers are needed and so forth.
Presently I either image HardDrive to HardDrive, or HardDrive to DVD, using a single bootable floppy. (it took me a while to get my autoexec just right, including mouse support and Dos clickable menus too.

oh. and i haven't gotten to play with it yet....

but there is also an audit for object access i would think (hope?) could also help provide even more trace data at the object/permissions level. Where you know something even to know the request doesn't even make it that far and know lots about the permissions access if it does.

I just happened to re-read the thread and i think the answer was there all along.

Too bad you never had the chance run a simple logon audit

Your problem started when you did a repair install. I had a hunch and checked. Sure enough, repair install resets values to defaults. Which includes resetting Guest's network logon right to Deny! The main computer ("server") was authenticating the 3 computers ("clients") as Guest but after the repair install logon was failing due to logon rights!

Well looking around, you may be right, and have another one for you. We have same issue now, with the clean install,and I think I know what happened, but cannot find out to clear this. My boss is running the main pc, that has the clean install, from before. He added a password to his account , then clicked on make private for his folders. I undid his password, rebooted the Pc, but still have no access to 2 folders now that are shared. Is there somewhere in GPedit or one of the policy groups, that I can clear this out?

Hi

Hope to be able to help again.

Couple questions to be sure i understand your situation right.
1. You are using Simple File Sharing on the main pc? To confirm Simple File Sharing From Explorer, click Tools->Folder Options, View tab, scroll down to see Use Simple File Sharing and is it checked? or not checked.
2. When you say "still no access to 2 folders now that are shared", Do you mean the folders your boss marked "private"? or are there still other folders involved other then the two private folders?

3. I'm guessing you're problem is you can't uncheck the box in boss's folder to "Make private"? It';s greyed out?

If you could answer questions above would help lots. Gotta run out a while but should be able to get back to you this afternoon. (Well 10am in chicago now, so relative to Chicago's afternoon )answers. Would think should be able to fix. Be more certain once i know and am clear about the questions i asked.

talk again later

the folders we have shared on on the desktop. After we reinstalled the Os and apps, moved the folders to the desktop, and shared them, with simple file sharing, and it is on. Once the user,(boss) made password for his computer, and then clicked on the , make folders private tab, we lost access on the other 3 pcs to those 2 folders. I had him delete the password, reboot the pc, and still cannnot see the folders on the other pcs. the folders were never marked private, but, became private when he made his accoutn private, Now it is not private, but still somewhere, the access rights I think are makred private for those folders.