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How does video card mem affect system RAM?

By WWJ
Nov 12, 2010
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  1. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    I think so...:haha:
     
  2. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Well Solitaire seems to work just fine. :approve:
     
  3. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    Not to mention the fact that, after playing it for 3 days straight on ecstasy, you won't have the slightest inclination to go out and shoot up your high school.

    BTW, the updated graphics on "Spider Solitaire" in Vista and Windows 7 are truly spectacular.
     
  4. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    True, assuming, if that describes me, I even have a high school to which to go.

    Oh, I wasn't aware. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
     
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    Actually that was a rather broad, satirical, generalization, comparing the mindset of those who play solitaire, with the mindset of those who play Crysis.

    And here again, I can say, "I knew that", to the fact you're currently not enrolled in a high school. I think that the toying around with an original owner Gateway P-3 machine, was the giveaway there.
     
  6. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    My turn to say, "I knew that." I was just further commenting that such a dazed, ecstasy-crazed mindset might not be a reliable attendee of any school.
     
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    I don't think that either one of us has been anywhere near a high school in sufficiently recent a period of time, to truly attest to the veracity of that statement.

    Besides, "reliable attendee", doesn't really fit my construct. An "Infrequent, mentally, unstable, unreliable, casually tardy, enrolled, but disinterested in actually showing up, ecstasy crazed, video game addict", would be more in line with my own distorted imaginings.
     
  8. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    I won't say I knew that.
     
  9. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,457   +228

    You've double posted and multiple posted several times in this thread alone. Double posting is when you "reply" to yourself resulting in two or more of your posts in a row. Please refer to the Community Guidelines here: http://www.techspot.com/vb-faq.html. Double posting is not the same as duplicate posting.

    If you no longer see your double posts, it's because I am merging them.
     
  10. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 982   +31

    If you've installed the latest drivers, try drivers from a few years ago. They're likely to be more lightweight and geared better towards older cards. I couldn't find any really old XP drivers on NVIDIA's site, but you can try the Windows 2000 drivers available there.
     
  11. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Hmm. I don't recall doing that. I thought I had been careful to reply to the intended person.

    But... If I did, what's so horrible about that? If I have three posts containing different, additional information on the subject that appear consecutively in the thread, what's the difference if they are to someone else or to myself?

    If it is something bad, please don't make it sound any worse than it is. I haven't posted anywhere in this forum except in this thread.
     
     
  12. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Thanks for looking. Where are the Windows 2000 drivers?
     
  13. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Just now I replied to you, then ET3D. Now to you again. Three posts appearing consecutively in the thread.
     
  14. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Please stop it.
     
  15. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    What are you talking about?! Please explain yourself! I clicked on the quotation mark symbol at the extreme bottom-right of your message. The hover text says, "Quick reply to this message." I click on it and post my reply.

    This is improper operation?
     
  16. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,457   +228

    I'm afraid so. When possible, you should avoid posting two or more consecutive posts regardless of how many different members you are responding to. Did you read the guidelines I linked to? That should explain it.
     
  17. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 982   +31

    Just read the new posts and respond to all of them in one message. You can also edit your previous posts if you want to add a response to something. The board doesn't keep track of which post is an answer to which, so posting several different message in response doesn't make things any clearer. I don't know why it's considered a problem here, but it's easy to avoid unless you need to quote several people (in which case it's a little bit more work, since there's no multi-quote feature here as is available in some other places).

    The Windows 2000 drivers are available on NVIDIA's site (under "drivers" on the top menu), but since you asked this question I assume you don't have the latest drivers installed. In which case don't rush to install these drivers. Go to the NVIDIA control panel and tell us what driver version you have installed.
     
  18. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    OK, thank you. At least you have made clear what it is I have done that is considered wrong, which someone else didn't do.

    And thanks also for confirming that I haven't been posting to myself, as someone else would have me think.

    In my view, that is impratical. It makes things unnecessarily complicated, or if kept simple, unclear as to who is saying what to whom. Additional information placed in edits of previous posts is likely to be missed by anyone who already has read that post. With that standard practice, effectively you have to go back and read what you've read to make sure you've read what you've read, every time you want to post informedly. That's fairly ridiculous to me.

    Frankly, I think I'm not willing to do all that. So in respect of your forum I suppose this is where I get off.

    No, quite possibly I don't have the latest drivers installed. I installed those supplied on the CD that came with the card:

    Driver version: 178.24
    Core clock: 351 MHz
    Memory clock: 266 MHz (532 MHz data rate)
    Memory interface: 64-bit
    Memory: 256 MB
    Video BIOS version: 5.44.A2.10.40
    IRQ: 11
    Bus: AGP 2X

    Thanks to all for your technical help.
     
  19. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    I'm going to show you how to create a multiple quoted response post.

    First, open a reply box by clicking on the "Post Reply" button.

    Then we're going to learn to manage posts in which replies to several different individuals are necessary.

    To do this, you would use browser tabs, by RIGHT clicking on the "quote" button and allow Firefox to open it in another tab with the person's post you're going to quote. Then type your reply to the individual and "select all" (The quote & your response) (Ctrl "A"), then copy and paste the entire post and your reply into the text box, that you started in the original "Reply" tab.

    Go through this for each individual you are responding to.

    When you're done, then submit the composite reply, and simply close the other tabs you have opened to develop the quote framework.

    In the end you will just have the one reply posted, with each individual being responded to, after his (or her) statement.

    Here's an example:
    I'm sorry, I'm new to this format.
    The Win 2000 drivers wouldn't help me, this machine is running XP.
    Wow, psychology blends with technology, would that be called, "Psychnogoly".
     
  20. WWJ

    WWJ TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 22

    Thanks just the same.
     
  21. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 982   +31

    WWJ, considering the driver version I'd suggest trying both newer and older drivers. The latest for XP and 2000 are what I'd try. No guarantee it'd change anything, but it's worth a try. I'll start with the Windows 2000 ones and see if they work and if there's any speed improvement.

    As for the forum rules, I don't see why it's a problem to follow them, and I disagree that it's clearer. Look at the previous page, where you have three consecutive posts. The latter two answer people without any attribution, and it's only clear from context who you're responding to. You could have easily put them into one post with "ET3D, ..." etc., and it would have been clearer.
     
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,823   +922

    I actually thought I did a real good job of explaining how to do this in post #44

    To be quite blunt, you've posted a fair amount of crap in this thread yourself. First of all, the machine has XP in it! So why all the nonsense about Win 2000 drivers.

    Second, the machine's maximum Ram, IS 384 mbs. So, all the further nonsense about hardware addresses being subtracted from 4GB of memory is entirely superfluous at best, and just plain confusing at worst.

    The drivers that came with the card would probably run just fine, had the OP installed them in the first place. He did later, and said that improved the situation. That's when you decided to step in and "fix" the machine.
     
  23. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 982   +31

    At least you have the right moniker, captaincranky. :)

    Reading back, it looks like I missed the part when the situation was fixed, and unnecessarily continued the thread. Sorry about that. The explanation about addresses used was in direct response to the theoretical discussion that the OP initiated and which appeared at the start of this thread.
     


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