If you own an Emachine, read this now!

By Rik
Nov 11, 2006
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  1. Lone Ranger

    Lone Ranger Newcomer, in training

    Operating System: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Home

    CPU: AMD Athlon™ XP 2400+
    Processor (2.00GHz) with QuantiSpeed™ architecture
    Chipset: VIA KM 266
    Memory: 256MB DDR (PC 2100)
    Hard Drive: 80GB HDD
    Optical Drive: 48x Max. CD-RW Drive, 16x Max. DVD Drive, 3.5" 1.44MB FDD
    Video: S3 ProSavage8™ integrated (1 AGP slot available)
    Sound: AC '97 Audio
    Network: 10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet
    Modem: 56K ITU v.92-ready Fax/Modem
    Peripherals: Multimedia Keyboard, 2-Button Wheel Mouse, Amplified Stereo Speakers
    Ports/Other: 6 USB 2.0 ports (2 on front), 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Microphone-In & Head Phone jack on front, Audio-In & Out, 3 PCI slots (2 available)
    Dimensions: 7.25"W x 14.125"H x 16"D


    Alright Guys,need your expert opinions.As I posted before about my above dead E-Machines.....This is where I am at.

    Need a new MB and PSU....I have sitting around a Brand new 120 gig. H/D and a Brand New Ge-Force 6200 oc Video card[AGP].Think I would like to put this back together for now and then hand it down to my Son later this year and buy a new set-up for myself.
    That said....This will be my first time.I am very mechanically inclined[Auto Tech.]Had Electronics in High School and can repair about anything.Have been inside of this and another Computer a few times,know what all the componets are.

    I know just puttin' it together is about 10% of the battle!Getting it to work is the other 90%.I know what I'm in for and never give up!!

    SO........My questions are:
    What reccomendations do you have for a M/B/and Chip-set[if needed chip-set]....PSU.....??

    Pretty much used for Surfing the Net,Music down-loads[Son].BUT like Tim Taylor says..."It needs more power"!!!Thanks Guys!!!![Mike]


    Just noticed the time is wrong on the board?
  2. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    "Just noticed the time is wrong on the board?"

    This is set in your User Profile, depending on your position on the Planet

    Recommendations for eMachines replacment parts are all over this thread. Most emachines systems are mini-towers. You decide if the case takes an ATX or mini-ATX board. Same with the power supply.

    Just about any board and power supply type will work. You don't want to spend too much though. You decide if you want to keep the processor and memory or upgrade. Motherboards with AGP ports are rare these days. DDR memory is giving way to DDR2. Pay close attention to memory type and speed ratings when choosing a motherboard. CPU socket type is also important
  3. aloevera

    aloevera Newcomer, in training

    Thanks, I've been reading!

    Learning more about motherboards than I ever wanted to know. Anyway, newegg and tiger direct have some cheap motherboard/processor combos that are under $100. This old emachines is pretty outdated so I think that's the way to go.

    Only trouble I'm still having is finding one that is form factor 9.6 x 9.6 and is DDR not DDR2. Otherwise there seem to be some pretty good bargains out there. Since my son does music and graphics, most of these newer combos look a lot better than what came with the machine.

    Thanks for your help!
  4. mypc_T2040

    mypc_T2040 Newcomer, in training

    Emachines T2040 sound card

    Hello all,
    I am new to this Forum.
    I have similar problem on my Emachines T2040 PC.
    "Tbeek", did you find fix to this problem?
    Appreciate if some one can help me on restoring my soundcard and USB slots.

    Thanks

    mypc_2040


  5. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    Easy fix for mypc_T2040 and tbeek...

    Both your eMachies are quite old. It's time to replace them. Just about any system would be better than what you have. I wouldn't even suggest that you replace the motherboards or power supplies in these
  6. mypc_T2040

    mypc_T2040 Newcomer, in training

    Thanks for the reply.

    what would be your recommendation for reasonable low end home PC.
  7. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    I build low-end PC's for about $400... Check out Wal-Mart for an HP low-end
  8. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,623

    anything one will get from Wal-Mart will be low-end.
  9. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    That's right nickc,
    there are the typical eMachines and HP systems. HP has a Vista laptop for $495 at our local Super Wal-Mart right now
  10. tbeek

    tbeek Newcomer, in training

    To: MyPC_T2040
    I replaced my power supply with a 350W and I bought a cheap sound card for a pci slot, all at my local Office Max. I have yet to fix my USB slots. The weird thing is my memory card reader works when I put it in the USB port, but anything else locks up the computer.
  11. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    tbeek,
    your motherboard is probably damaged and it won't last much longer. I recommend to always replace both the power supply and the motherboard at the same time in ALL eMachines systems
     
  12. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Do not count on a new PSU resolving the problem. The Power Supply is often damaged by the motherboard, not the other way around. You are merely wasting your money. We have had over 300 similar eMachines in our shops.
    Yours is a Wal-Mart version with a motherboard that has failed, and will likely never run properly again. Look back through the forums on the history.
    Motherboard fails regardless of the power supply used.
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,577   +863

    Dear Long Ranger

    You have in fact returned to the thrilling days of yesteryear, in that none of the parts in this Emachines are even remotely what you could call contemporary, either in speed or capacity. Most of the upgrading you would want/need to do would be accomplished with long obsolete parts.

    Building a computer is a scary thing true enough, but with enough preparation, you would find that the percentages you list don't even come close to reality. It's really not that hard to get the darn thing working after assembly, provided you do plenty of homework before assembly.

    Also you need to ascribe 50% to figuring out which parts to buy, waiting for them to come, and last but not least, paying for them. Hmm, 50% would be half the battle.

    Since, I've worked as both a mechanic and autopainter, I can say confidently that these skill sets are of no use in this field, (unless the case is badly dented).

    In the context of this forum asking for advice on what you should buy is probably not the best approach, 10 replies, 10 different opinions. Understandable enough, with many hard core enthusiasts having long developed product preferences. Better you should come up with a system idea and have us critique it. $5.00 here, a different CPU there, better value, like that.
  14. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    The hard drive (unless it is a Tri-Gem) and optical drive as as modern and standard as any in a Dell, Gateway, HP, or compaq.. Your memory is slow but adequate and can be upgraded to a faster module. You need a LOT MORE Memory... at least 512 MB. There is nothing wrong with the S3 ProSavage, nor the AC 97 audio. Not hot rod material but decent and modern.
    Your problem is with a defective board (and or power supply) a condition which is well known to eMachine repair folks. It will only get worse. The board was designed and built in Korea under contract... It it has Tri-Gem notation on the board, or on the two largest chips, it is even worse.
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,577   +863

    Dear Raybay.......

    Upgrade vs. replace is the stuff upon which PC magazines are constructed. The Intel 915 motherboard in the less than 3 year old Emachines T-5026 I"m using to write this reply is long discontinued. If we discount 1066Mhz FSBs, DDR2, SATA2 and the fact that OEM dual layer DVD burners are running about $30.00 at the moment then you are correct that the system in question is contemporary.

    I have another Emachines MSI/Celeron/PATA HDD system, (Which incidentally has DDR2 memory (512 installed at purchase) and the provision for PCIEx16 video)), it was only $330.00 USD and is Vista ready. So, is a rebuild on Lone Ranger's 5 year old really the best idea?

    I might add that the new Emachines $300.00 boxes on sale at Best Buy (at least a few months ago),are shipping with Cedar Mill Celerons (mine is a Prescott 347) which really crank, but are almost obsolete now.
  16. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    It depends almost entirely on whether he wants to spend the extra bucks to access his hard drive, or use his recovery discs. Without that motherboard tattoo in the EEPROM, the hard drive will fail and give the average enlightened user real trouble accessing data on that drive. The Recovery Disk won't work, and the black screen is the result.
    An owner can get lucky about 35 to 40 percent of the time, and get Microsoft to update the product ID code from the certificate of authenticity on the case.
    But the other 60 to 65 percent of users will be told by Microsoft, as we have verified many, many times in various homes and repair shops, that "The Windows XP license dies with the motherboard."

    Once the owner/user has retrieved his data, this is not such a big issue, but it will still require the user/owner to buy a new version of Windows XP for $64 to $85 to $134 depending on whether they buy an upgrade version, and OEM version, or a full version at a discount online site. Neither the upgrade version nor the OEM version will allow the owner or user to rescue the data on that hard drive unless they are unusually technically astute and experienced. Then there is the cost per hour of the technician if one must be hired.

    You are suggesting a very high price for a lot of people that really don't care that much about what they are using as long as the machine works.

    The problem really ends up at the motherboard, which is redesigned by Tri-Gem in most cases from the original Intel or other manufacturer design... where they use bad manufacturing and lousing capacitors that perpetuates the process.

    I think the work and the products of eMachines are criminal. But it is the innocent user who is punished.
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,577   +863

    As usual I still have a question....

    Mercifully, I haven't been placed in Lone Rangers position, (as of yet). But, I have taken proactive steps to avoid painting myself into that particular corner. I don't use the system drive to store any data. Any data on the system drive I copy to a volume drive, or file it there in the first place.

    Now, the question, can you place the system drive in another machine and extract the data files only?

    The point about when the motherboard dies, it's Windows copy dies with it seems to reinforce my replacement POV since we're likely going to have to buy a new copy to get the old clunker running.

    As a point of clarity, I wasn't suggesting that LoneRanger get back on the horse (so to speak) by buying another Emachines, I offered the stats as a comparative value observation. I agree my reasons were probably slightly ambiguous.
  18. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Yes, you can recover your data using the drive jumpered as slave, with the main drive jumpered as Master, and even from some External USB or Fireware boxes. You can drag or drop, or use some of the simple recovery software packages.
  19. A.H.S

    A.H.S Newcomer, in training

    should my monitor be emachines or they dont make monitors?
  20. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    You can use any monitor you want... Someone makes the eMachines monitors for them. Personally the big green "e" on the case and monitor makes the hair stand up on my neck!
  21. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,577   +863

    Yeah Well....

    Ya gotta admit the pretty blue light in the power button is gosh darn nifty.
  22. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 20,746   +156

    I have bright blue LEDs on my Audio bass box, and USB extention box and an external back up hard drive case...
  23. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,577   +863

    Well Then......

    Ya gotta admit, those bright blue emachines LEDs would be a bold fashion accessory!
  24. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    The sell monitors under the eMachines label, but I think they are made by Envision... both the flat panel and the crt...
    But I could be rong. I have not looked at them closely. Whatever they are, they are not much good.

    Having a good monitor by some other superb brand, such as Sony Trinitron or LG Flatron, does not make the eMachines one twit better.
  25. Lone Ranger

    Lone Ranger Newcomer, in training

    Guys ,I appreciate all the info. and opinions!Have been on Vacation and have'nt been here for awhile.I Love to learn!!I'm takin' all this in!Pretty much what I was thinking,is to repair what I have for now.I have a 17" Samsung LCD[930B] Monitor.Ram was up-graded years ago to 1 meg.I know what I have is "Old School",But it does what I need it to do,well.Later on after learning more from you Guys,I will make a move on some newer equipment and hand this one down to my Son.[Yea right!!!]I'm sure He will end up with the new one!!He's 17.

    If I could just throw a OEM Mobo and new PS at it and go,I'd be good with that.I know I'd be taking another chance,BUT IF it would last as long as it did.By that time it would be REALLY "Old School"!Thanks again!![Mike]
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