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I'm overheating... but how?

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by Eddieguard, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    and how exactly are you supposed to do the actual soldering, given that our god-given hands can't really handle those temps? :p

    I was actually joking about fixing CPUs, but you got me interested.
  2. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

  3. Eddieguard Newcomer, in training

    So I've finally gotten around to installing the Arctic Silver 5 and it works great now. My idle temp is about 35 C and my load is about 45 C down from about 80 C and 95 C respectively. I'm not sure whether it was the AS5 or just cleaning up the dust (a vacuum cleaner, toothbrush, and pipe cleaner) that helped so much because I could barely see the components beneath all the filth :D

    Also there were remnants of a thermal pad which were removed easily thanks to ArctiClean in about a minute. That stuff is great.

    Anyways guys thanks for all your help.
  4. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    AS5 is miraculous! (40C difference!) I should try that on my Athlon XP! (Upgraded cooler, output fan in the case, cover open, 8" fan blowing on all this to keep it up to 52 C)
  5. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    I know we "worship" AS5 in these forums, and we're not the only ones.

    We can start a new religion, on how AS5 created the world or something...

    Either way, the temperature drop shouldn't be more than 5-10 (5 being typical), so I'd say that blowing the dust away would be the main reason for the 40C difference. I know it does on my Tt Golf 325 (notorious for dust buildup cos of the thinly spread fins). You should notice a furthur drop in temperature while using, but thats probably an extra 2C or so only.

    Also, I won't recommend using the cover off like that, dust gets in even more. Also, I'd prefer to add in a couple of 120mm fans, and a whole bunch of 80mm fans wherever I can stuff them to keep the comp cool, cover the side panel, and move the 8" fan to cool my super parallel CPU called the BRAIN.
  6. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    I also read about liquid metal to use instead of AS5, but I also read that there is no temp. difference.

    Yup, there's more dust, but I clean it. Also, the fan moves so much air that there never is lots of dust. Only fine one... (But blowing in there works)

    The case's too cheap to have more than one place to have an output fan... (I cut the air flow blocker on the output hole and put an 80mm last year, it helps, but I still need that 8")
    There's also a place for an input fan but, as usual with generic cases, they forgot the holes...

    I would have to put some sort of duct going to the CPU fan... Gotta have some thinking to do!

    Where have you got that CPU? I've never been able to find one! ;-)
     
  7. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Lol....


    About your case, you can probably try to make some holes yourself. How about drilling a whole lot of holes, and fill the whole side panel with 120mms? You'd need... some 10 of them? You wouldn't need to worry about exhaust fans with that (but it sure would help). :D
  8. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Why not a side cover made of 120mm fans?
  9. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Why didn;t I think of that...Much easier to make too!
  10. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    The problem then is that you get as much dust as the 8" and some more airflow noise as a bonus.

    It's the 3rd CPU cooler I put on that CPU...

    The cheap CoolerMaster thermal pad -could- explain some things.

    (BTW, is there a way to remove thermal pads easier than burning the heatsink with an hair dryer and scraping it?)
  11. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    I'd just scrape it. with a plastic card (unused credit cards).

    I still think making a side panel with 120mm fans is a good idea. I'll see if I can make one. Very busy these days, med school gives too much anatomy....
  12. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    Hard enough? Just done it on a TT heatsink and it was a long painful experience.

    Just saw "Arctic Cleaner" in previous posts. Works?
  13. KingCody TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,568   +7

    LMAO :D :D :D

    or you could just water cool :)
  14. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    Watercooling is quite expensive... for a good one that is. I can get one for 100 bux, but I get its not gonna work anywhere near as good as my current HSF combo. Which I paid more or less the same amount for.
  15. KingCody TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,568   +7

    Just make your own, I did...
  16. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    tell me, how do you make your own waterblocks? if I can make my own waterblocks, I would've gone water a long long time ago.

    Also, I'm not very handy around metals (I can do woodwork!! :D), so not sure if I can trust myself...
  17. benken2202001 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 139

    -Swiffer Dusters are amazing for cleaning computers. They just suck up the dust, and are anti-static charge. plus they get the gf off your back. "i'm cleaning up the house!"

    -I just recently learned the art of Ducttaping fans to the case.

    -if you have enough time, do what my buddy did, get a college dorm room mini-fridge, and just do away with your case/fans/cooling. plus its a LOT quieter and there's tons of shelving for extra HDDs. Plus it takes care of that dream every computer buff has of having a fridge next to his computer.
  18. CMH TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,572   +9

    I'm not looking into TECs or fridges, although those are super cooling solutions. Mainly because I'll be looking at doubling or trippling my computer electricity usage.
  19. KingCody TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,568   +7

    lol..

    a basic waterblock is quite simple to make actually. it will not be as efficient as a commercially available water vlock, but will still cool as well as a high end air cooler without the jet-engine sound :)

    1. get a rectugular shaped chunk of aluminum big enough to cover the CPU die (it doesn't have to cover the entire heat spreader, because the die is what generates all the heat, and it is in the center of the CPU)

    2. drill 3 holes... 2 holes in the top (1 input and 1 output), and a 3rd hole in the side to connect the 2 top holes together (which will allow the water to pass through the block.

    3. tap appropriate sized threads into all the holes (will vary based on the desired setup)

    4. screw in hose barbs into the 2 top holes (use teflon tape or plumber's putty to prevent leaks)

    5. put a screw/bolt into the connecting hole to seal it up (again, teflon tape or plumber's putty)

    6. make a mount for it using a thin metal or plastic sheet or just modify the clip from a stock air cooler to hold it in place

    one thing to note is... unless you have scrap aluminum sitting around or know where to get some, it's not cheap to buy and may even cost you more than a commercial waterblock)

    It won't really save you any money to build it yourself. it will simply give you a sense of satisfaction that your own creation is cooling your computer down.
    :D :D :D
  20. DragonMaster Newcomer, in training Posts: 430

    No need of a fridge, to save $$ just get a VIA Eden and an S3 Chrome S27.