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Installing Linux for the first time (& dual boot)

Discussion in 'The Alternative OS' started by svtcobra, Feb 20, 2002.

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  1. DesertEagle Newcomer, in training

    Windows on hda5?

    Helloooo there, this is my first post since i havent found what im looking for and im very hungry... and tired of looking everywhere. So, without further whining:

    i want to boot my hard drive's windows 2000 partition (hda5 in linux) and apparently windows doesnt like that, i can boot into linux (hda1) but windows says the typical error message on boot up IN CAPS (that one about device not found inaccesible hdd, etc) :\

    im using GRUB and the config is

    title Windows
    root(hd0,5)
    chainloader +1
    makeactive

    Ok so thats pretty much it... thanks in advance for the help.
  2. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    If

    rootnoverify (hd0,5)
    makeactive
    chainloader +1

    doesn't help, I'm not sure what else to do, other than making the computer boot into 2k and editing its boot.ini to boot Linux. It shouldn't matter that 2k is installed into a logical partition, as far as I know.
  3. Nodsu Newcomer, in training Posts: 9,431

    I don't quite remember, but don't you need to issue a "boot" after the chainloader thingie?
  4. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    Only if you use GRUB's command line manually.
  5. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    some time ago Phantasm I downloaded your instructions and have just tried again to put Red Hat 8.0 on my computer as a dual boot with Win XP Home , this is about the closest I have got to success I have Grub loader and when I booted up a the finish of your instructions using the boot disk typed startx and nothing happened.

    After taking out the boot disk and booting normally the grub screen comes up and I can go into XP OK no worries, but when I click on Red Hat which I have as default it runs OK and the welcome to red hat comes up than all the green OK's seem to be OK but I have noticed it says No Mount Points defined.

    then I get the Local Host logon and can type root and my password and then find that the only command that seems to work is exit , I have tried other commands and nothing seems to work. I guess there is something simple going on but I havnt got the expertise to find it .

    Hopefully you can steer me on the right track Phantasm, would be much obliged if you did:) I dont think I have left anything out .
  6. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    OK MintabiePete, I am not sure exactly what you have done, but something I would be thinking about is trying the install again, and making sure that you have read everything carefully.

    But to be able to help you a little, try this:-

    cat /etc/fstab

    once you have logged on as root. write down what you see on the screen, and post it back here.
     
  7. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    Don't forget that you're in the Unix world now, DOS commands won't work. For example, instead of dir, Unix has ls and so on.
  8. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    Thanks for taking the time phantasm66, and as requested:

    Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (psyche)
    kernel 2.4.18-14 on an i586
    localhost login root
    password:
    last login:mon may 12 12:17:15 on ttyl
    [root@localhost root]# cat /etc/fstab
    LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 11
    none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 00
    /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp vfat defaults 00
    none /proc proc defaults 00
    none /dev/shm tmpfs 00
    /dev/hda3 swap swap defaults 00
    /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso 9660 noauto,owner,
    kudzu,ro 0
    0 0
    /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,
    kudzu 00
    [root@localhost root]#



    I hope I have everything right as I had to copy it longhand:) and it was in 3 columns but comes out different when I post it
  9. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    I have installed again and after logging on as root gave the command startx and get the following error page.

    reporting problems
    build operating system : linux 2.4.18-11 smpi 686 [ELF]
    build host: daffy. perf.redhat.com
    module loader present.
    os kernel: linux version 2.4.18-14 (bhcompile@stripples.devel.redhat.com)(gcc version 3-2 20020903)(redhat linux 8.0 3.2-7))#1 wed sep 4 11:57:edt 2002
    markers:(--) probed,(**)from config file,(==)default setting,
    (++)from command line,(!!)notice,(II)informational,
    (ww)warning,(EE)error,(NI)not implemented,(??)unknown
    (==)log file:"/var/log/xfree 86.0.log,"Time:tue may 1305:38 2003
    (==)using config file: "/etc/x11/xf86 config"
    (EE)no devices detected

    Fatal Server Error
    no screens found

    x10:fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer)on x server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

    hope you can understand it , miss the copy and paste tools where you know tht everything is correct:)
  10. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    you have a misconfigured X server. when i get time i will post how you fix this. all that's the matter is that you are not getting the graphical user interface.
  11. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    You could try xf86config. Your profile doesn't tell which gfx card you have..
  12. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    I think there isn't Xconfigurator or XF68Config in Red Hat 8.0, I think it uses something like redhat-config-display or something, if used in text only mode. You could try editing the config file by hand, but i don't recommend that for a newbie.

    when you install, and get to the graphical setup bit, do you REMEMBER TO TEST THE CONFIGURATION??? Install again, this time make sure you get a working desktop display before you move on from that section of the install.
  13. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    when I was installing it gave me a test box for the different config of the window , I set it as 800x600 and it picked up my video card as s3trio64v2 and my monitor as IBM P50 so I would have presumed it worked .

    But a question, does it show it worked in that little box or should it show it as full screen ? which is doesnt , I am not sure with this .:confused:
  14. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    installing Red Hat Linux 8.0 is certainly getting easier , and as far as I know I am following the instructions to the "T" but seem to have problems with the monitor configurations .

    I have tried what comes up which is a s3 trio 64v2 4mb video card with the monitor which it seems to recognise IBM P50
    and no go , I have then reinstalled and tried all the generic monitors with no luck , I know that my monitor horiz scan range is 30.0 - 69.0 khz and vert refresh range is 50.0-120.0hz
    and have set it at 800x600 @ 60 hz

    I have used the command xf86config command and have changed settings keeping within the guidelines with no luck


    Have come to the conclusion that maybe my computer is just too old , Monitor built in april 1997 but it handles XP in windows OK , so I just dont know . Everything seems to be OK except the display and yet it handles the bootloader screen ok , but wont go into the graphic to boot up .

    Is getting a bit later here , I will have to shut off the generator and hit the sack for the night and try tomorrow night.

    Hopefully I can get some help with something that I have missed.
  15. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    I am afraid all I can suggest is continuing to attempt to configure the X server properly. You need to try different card and monitor configurations. try standard montor, etc. Good luck.
  16. MintabiePete Newcomer, in training

    yeah eventually got it running OK , the monitor was OK the problem was the video card configuration , have experimented a few times but is late now will keep trying and try to understand this system a bit better , thanks for the encouragement, I ended up taking Red Hat 8.0 off and putting Mandrake 8.0 on which did most of the configeration and put me on the right path .:) but have since put Red Hat Linux 8.0 back on .
  17. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    glad you are making some progress. if possible, I would try red hat 9 which is a great improvement IMHO.
  18. darkdan Newcomer, in training

    Dual Booting Mandrake and winxp pro

    Ok, here's my scenario:

    I've finally decided to take the plunge, and give linux a try. Actually, a while back I had installed redhat and had it working for a bit...but after all the countless hours of trial and error (lots of the latter..) I gave up. Well, filled with a desire to stop using windows I have to decided to give linux another shot.

    First off, I have chosen Mandrake because of some of the good things I've heard about it. My question is, for a newby like myself, is Mandrake better or redhat?

    Ok, onto the real question. I want to know how I can install mandrake 9.1 and dualboot either mandrake or windows. I have 2 main partitions as of now. On my 40gig WD 7200 rpm drive, I have a 10gig windows partition and the rest (27.3 gigs or so) is devoted to files..mp3, warez (oops) etc..can anyone point me to a tutorial or guide that explains installing mandrake with winxppro WITH winxppro already being installed (i recently formatted and want to avoid doing so for a while)

    As always, any help I receive is greatly appreciated.
    -dan
  19. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    Mandrake or RedHat would be good. You would be good with either. Mandrake maybe for you would be nice for now.

    As regards your second question, follow my guide which is available at the start of this thread as closely as possible. I would work on a partitioning scheme a little like this:-

    10GB Windows XP
    10GB Linux
    2GB Linux SWAP
    Remainder Data drive (for mp3s, etc) format as FAT32.

    If you read my notes, which as I said are available at the start of this thread, I explain how to do all of this. The instructions are easily adapted for mandrake.
  20. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    Re: Dual Booting Mandrake and winxp pro

    Phantasm66 seems to prefer Mandrake, I prefer Red Hat 7.3, not newer :)
    So, you'll need to resize your partitions and don't want to lost data?
    P.S. Welcome to TechSpot forums!