Intel: Cannon Lake is "on track" and Ice Lake is "taped in"

[Shawn Knight]

In a perfect world, Intel’s Kaby Lake CPUs wouldn’t exist. The chipmaker’s original plan was to jump from the 14nm Skylake directly to the 10nm Cannon Lake as per its tried-and-true Tick-Tock release cadence. Unfortunately, that’s not how things played out.

Manufacturing difficulties forced Intel in mid-2015 to delay the launch of Cannon Lake and ultimately introduce a third family of CPUs built on the 14nm process to bridge the gap. Thus, Kaby Lake was born.

Cannon Lake is still “on track” according to a fresh tweet from Intel on Thursday. Specifics weren’t mentioned although one could reasonably assume that Intel means it’s still on track with its guidance to manufacture Cannon Lake in the second half of 2017 (with volume shipments coming in the first half of 2018).

Intel’s tweet also noted that they’ve now “taped in” Ice Lake, its second-generation 10nm product.

According to The Guru of 3D, a tape-in is the second to last stage in the design process of a chip. This is in contrast to the tape-out where the physical production of the initial engineering batch wafer samples takes place.

Curiously enough, Intel’s tweet didn’t mention Coffee Lake, the fourth 14nm CPU family that’s expected later this year (perhaps as early as August). It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake.

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[CaptainTom]

" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

You mean overheating? That's all Kaby Lake brought to the table. The 6700K and 7700K both easily reach 5GHz, and the higher stock clocks of Kaby came with a higher TDP lmao.

In fact if you clock broadwell and skylake the same, IPC is less than 3%.


Unless Cannon Lake brings a 10% IPC increase or 5.0GHz stock clocks on 6-core models, it's DOA.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

You mean overheating? That's all Kaby Lake brought to the table. The 6700K and 7700K both easily reach 5GHz, and the higher stock clocks of Kaby came with a higher TDP lmao.

In fact if you clock broadwell and skylake the same, IPC is less than 3%.


Unless Cannon Lake brings a 10% IPC increase or 5.0GHz stock clocks on 6-core models, it's DOA.

" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

You mean overheating? That's all Kaby Lake brought to the table. The 6700K and 7700K both easily reach 5GHz, and the higher stock clocks of Kaby came with a higher TDP lmao.

In fact if you clock broadwell and skylake the same, IPC is less than 3%.


Unless Cannon Lake brings a 10% IPC increase or 5.0GHz stock clocks on 6-core models, it's DOA.

I hardly think it's DOA just because it's not an improvement over "your" current system.

Can you clarify your 3rd paragraph sentence? You mean to say there is a 3% IPC improvement in Kaby Lake over the previous 2 generations? But that also implies there is no difference whatsosever in Broadwell/SkyLake IPC count?

To quote the article itself:
" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

While the statement above is almost a given it doesn't talk about the most significant aspect of the "Coffee Lake" generation of Intel CPUs. I read somewhere that Coffee Lake will be released in a 6-core CPU version (along with others of course) for the price of the previous generations quad-core CPUs. Which sounds like a good deal to me.

Thank You AMD for Ryzen?????

 

[Evernessince]

" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

You mean overheating? That's all Kaby Lake brought to the table. The 6700K and 7700K both easily reach 5GHz, and the higher stock clocks of Kaby came with a higher TDP lmao.

In fact if you clock broadwell and skylake the same, IPC is less than 3%.


Unless Cannon Lake brings a 10% IPC increase or 5.0GHz stock clocks on 6-core models, it's DOA.

" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

You mean overheating? That's all Kaby Lake brought to the table. The 6700K and 7700K both easily reach 5GHz, and the higher stock clocks of Kaby came with a higher TDP lmao.

In fact if you clock broadwell and skylake the same, IPC is less than 3%.


Unless Cannon Lake brings a 10% IPC increase or 5.0GHz stock clocks on 6-core models, it's DOA.

I hardly think it's DOA just because it's not an improvement over "your" current system.

Can you clarify your 3rd paragraph sentence? You mean to say there is a 3% IPC improvement in Kaby Lake over the previous 2 generations? But that also implies there is no difference whatsosever in Broadwell/SkyLake IPC count?

To quote the article itself:
" It is believed that this family will offer additional minor refinements to the 14nm process, much like Kaby Lake did over Skylake."

While the statement above is almost a given it doesn't talk about the most significant aspect of the "Coffee Lake" generation of Intel CPUs. I read somewhere that Coffee Lake will be released in a 6-core CPU version (along with others of course) for the price of the previous generations quad-core CPUs. Which sounds like a good deal to me.

Thank You AMD for Ryzen?????

Any CPU not worth upgrading to from last gen is DOA. There is zero point in releasing an entire new series based on very minor changes unless you are just filling gaps. For example, just look at the 500 series. It would be a piece of cake for intel to simply release more refined silicon on their current platform but they simply choose to drum up fake excitement with a "new" series of CPUs and require everyone to go and buy new motherboards. While coffee lake is going to be introducing 6 core into the mainstream you can already get that on Ryzen right now. By the time Coffee lake does come out we will likely see AMD release higher clocked Zen processors, as AMD have already stated that it is possible to fill the gap between Zen and Zen+ with CPUs sporting more mature silicon.

 

[psycros]

"Taped in?" "Taped out?" I wonder if this is a holdover term from the era of code being stored on magnetic tape. It wouldn't shock me.

 

[ilt24]

"Taped in?" "Taped out?" I wonder if this is a holdover term from the era of code being stored on magnetic tape. It wouldn't shock me.

Tape-Out is old, I started working in the semiconductor industry in the early 80's and at that time it was when the layout team completed it's work and sent a physical tape out to a Reticle shop to make a set of photo masks.

Tape-In wasn't something used by the company I happen to work for them, but I believe Tape-In is when the design team has completed their work and hands the design off to the layout team so they can do the final layout.

 

[CaptainTom]

I hardly think it's DOA just because it's not an improvement over "your" current system.

Can you clarify your 3rd paragraph sentence? You mean to say there is a 3% IPC improvement in Kaby Lake over the previous 2 generations? But that also implies there is no difference whatsosever in Broadwell/SkyLake IPC count?

There is nothing to clarify. Skylake is overlclocked Broadwell with like 3% more IPC, and Kabylake is Skylake with overheating issues.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Well it gives Intel dominance in the news and looking like they are advancing lest anyone consider buying Ryzen

 

[OcelotRex]

Thank You AMD for Ryzen?????

I guess you missed the part of the article where it said "Manufacturing difficulties forced Intel in mid-2015 to delay the launch of Cannon Lake and ultimately introduce a third family of CPUs built on the 14nm process to bridge the gap. Thus, Kaby Lake was born."

So years into the development cycle for a Q4 '16 or Q1 '17 release it was decided push the 10nm CPUs back a year. This decision was made roughly the same time Zen was announced.