what like 20 to 3 pro Intel mobo reviews
at least be honest your pro Intel
My honest opinion is that you have no idea what you are talking about. We tested with a DDR3 motherboard that features AMD’s fastest chipset. Again having said that where is the evidence that AMD processors are much slower with DDR2 memory using an older chipset? Furthermore our conclusion did not sound very bias towards Intel at all but then I am sure you didn’t read it.
Great review! I just missed one thing. Did you measure the power consumption with ONLY the integrated GPU activated and the gtx 285 removed?
From the power consumption page..
"Our power consumption test takes into consideration the complete platform running the same third-party components (graphics, etc.). The built-in graphics from the Core i5 661 were turned off so we could make a straight comparison against the rest of the systems using a GeForce GTX 285 graphics card."
So for comparisons sake we tested with GeForce GTX 285 plugged in but at idle.
But the average customer would probably buy 661 just because of the integrated GPU, right? And not replace it with an additional graphics card... I don't see the point of buying 661 if that were the case? And therefore it would be nice to know the consumption of the system as it was meant to be configured. With the internal GPU activated and nothing else.
That's what I'm thinking, anyway.
Thanks for the review but I personally believe that GPU on the same die as the CPU is not a good idea, its not flexible, u cant customize it and ur stuck with it even if u dont want it
True but how is that different from any IGP? For mainstream GPU’s this is not a bad idea in terms of efficiency.
Thanks for the great review, it's given me enough information to decide that the i5-661 is suitable for my new ITX build.
From what I can see of the review, the test methods were well set up, documented and unbiased. Unfortunately for the AMD fans their offerings didn't quite cut the mustard. This happens from time to time, just like AMDs ATI brand is currently beating the pants off of NVIDIA, but I doubt that will be the case forever.
At the moment intel are very much at the cutting edge and it's working for them, while AMD are playing it relatively safe with incremental advances. The problem with being at the cutting edge is that it has a high level of risk associated with it - remember RAMBUS? AMD will come back with some decent products soon enough and the fanboys can relive the Athlon glory days
As for processor integrated graphics, I think it's a fantastic idea - onboard graphics like those of the i5-661 have reached the point that there really is no point in going for anything better unless you want to play games. Most computers never play anything more demanding than solitaire, so it's not an issue. For the few people who do want to use such a very middle-of-the-road processor like the i5-661 for a gaming rig, the onboard graphics can be disabled without any trouble. For everyone else, it gives decent processor performance with decent graphics capability at a very good price - all intel need to do now is integrate 4gb of RAM and it would be a really decent 'computer on a chip'.
What kind of cooling system do you use?
According to the article, the "Cogage TRUE Spirit heatsink" was used.
My i5-661 reached an easy 4.0 GHz using the stock intel cooler in a rather cramped case with poor airflow. My voltage settings were not as aggressive as the reviewed system.
For a laugh I built up a system using the i5-661, Gigabyte H55N-USB3 (Mini ITX) motherboard and a Radeon HD5970 in a cardboard chassis. Worked a treat