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Is it legal to install Mac OS X on a PC?

Discussion in 'The Alternative OS' started by Envergure, Jul 22, 2008.

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  1. SNGX1275 TechSpot Special Forces

    Sprocket - what software are you running on them? its incredibly rare that I have anything crash on any of my Macs (of course its pretty rare on my PCs too). Opera is the last thing I've had crash but its been months, and it always comes back on a relaunch. I run Office 2008 on my powerbook, firefox, safari, webkit, itunes, adium, colloquy, last.fm, vlc, VirtualHub, and probably a few others. Crashes are incredibly rare, and I've never had the OS itself mess up outside of maybe a networking glitch with a Windows PC.

    Hardware failures like the HD or RAM could sort of be blamed on Apple, because of their choices in brands or something, but there is absolutely no difference in a 2.5" hd in an Apple notebook vs one in a PC notebook.

    What is your complaint about the battery? Nearly every single notebook that has been made in the last 4 years has used a Lithium Ion battery. Dell's have caught fire too. If you crack a shell on a MacBook you are treating it pretty badly, but I guess that type of treatment would help to explain all the other incredibly rare problems that you are seeing in such abundance.
  2. sprocket3 Newcomer, in training

    My Favorite ones made and I personally have 4 of them are the titanium and aluminum powerbooks. Except for the fact that they scratch and dent. I use those for mobile servers so the hard drives go out fairly often on them.
  3. raybay TechSpot Addict

    There are great differences in reliability of laptop hard drives among: Fujitsu, Hitachi, Samsung,Seagate, Toshiba, Western Digital, and TriGem as we have found in our tracking of sales teams, insurance reps, and other teams using laptops in the Southwest that we service.
    But we find that MacIntosh laptop hard drives experience earlier failures... and Mac laptops appear to have better care... but less reliable cooling in recent models.
    Overall, it appears the brand and model of hard drive is more significant than any other factor, other than heat.
  4. sprocket3 Newcomer, in training

    I think I mentioned that I run computers for a middle school right? My main complaint about the batteries are there premature failure. Apple only covers them for one year because they are considered a disposable. 50+ of the ones I've had in the last year have failed on just before or just after the year mark. Because I'm apple certified I can't just go into the apple store and plead my case and hope they'll give me one anyways because they all know me at my local store. Also as far as software goes I run most of the usual productivity software. Office, Ilife / IWork, and Firefox. I also have to image because I run so many computers. Apples imaging software that comes with OS X Server has proven to be very unreliable and unstable and it might be a contributing factor to the software problems.
  5. sprocket3 Newcomer, in training

    Raybay has it right, from what I've seen your average mac runs hotter internally than your average pc laptop. Yes I know I made a generalization that can't be proven but it's just from my own experience. The reason it's true is because he macbook is so much lighter and slimmer which makes it better for travel and to carry around. That is mostly why g4's ibooks run cooler (partly because of their slower processor) mostly because of the fact that they have more room for higher cfm fans.
  6. SNGX1275 TechSpot Special Forces

    Failure of batteries, as in losing charge capacity, is true to some extent. I believe its documented several places that some of the first gen macbooks and mbp had batteries that died sooner than they should. But Didou (mod here) ran some software that checks his battery, and his is still doing well, I don't have the link, but I'm sure we could get him to post if needed. I ran that app on mine too and my battery is doing well for its age:
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    I would be suprised if the typical lithium ion battery in a PC Notebook is any different in life span. Probably part of the problem is that if there is a bad batch of batteries, they show up in a portion of the MacBook or MBP notebooks, if a bad batch of batteries enters Dell or HP's line, they have a ton of other models in their own inventory to drown down the percentages, and then the entire PC Notebook volume across the other manufacturers. Maybe you guys just got a bunch of notebooks from a line of bad batteries, but Apple doesn't make the batteries they just use them. If you pull out 2 PC notebook models at random and stick to them I bet you'd see statistically the same "failure" rates.

    I can't comment on the imaging software with OS X Server because I have no expierence with it.

    Your heat comment might be right, but I think for the wrong reasons. The iBooks ran cooler because of their processor, G3 and G4s just ran cooler than the Intel Cores. They also had a plastic case rather than Aluminum or even Titanium in some of the Powerbooks (plastic being a better insulator). So the iBooks had 2 things going for them, plastic and a cooler processor, they may have had more air space too, but I don't know for sure. The flipside is that the early MacBooks were also plastic, and ran hot and also felt hot on the user's lap, so you are correct on that. Their whole model line going to metal cases now probably won't help the heat the user feels either. I don't know that that has much of anything to do with reliability though, heat does shorten life of electronics, but it may cut the life from something like 10 years down to 7, it doesn't cut it below the typical use-span of a notebook computer.

    We are pretty off track of the original topic of this thread, so if people want to continue this discussion I may have to cut these last several posts out of the original thread and place them in a new one.
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