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Is this video card any good?

Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by Benan, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    I don't think i'd have enough money left over..

    Kingston DDR 1GB 400MHZ Value Ram $180.40

    Power Supply 550W Hairong $30.80

    Umm, I dont even if it is a good brand that Power supply. any other suggestions? Because im not gona get a Decent Video card for $50 :p
  2. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    I can run BF2 on a 6600 AGP 8X with a AMD 2400+ Athlon Processor on MAX settings with my 350 watt 18 amp power supply no problems at all.
  3. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    Know any one in Aus who sells that card? (not ebay) and how much ram u got?
  4. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    1.5GB.

    click my nickame profile to check my system specs. My AMD system outdoes my newer Intel system. Thats because the graphics card is letting it down.

    An Nvidia 6600 or higher should run BF2 on max settings. But make sure your card has 256mb of RAM and your system RAM is ideally 1GB.

    You should find a good cheap Antec PSU to meet your budget.
  5. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    Gigabyte N66256DP GeForce 6600, 256MB, TV/DVI, AGP8X $195.90

    Is that one im looking for? and is that the right price?

    I also found this
    PALIT Radeon X800GTO 256Mb, "AGP 8X" DDR3, DVI, TV-Out INFO AUD $232.00

    and then this one on a seperate site

    Palit RADEO X800GTO AGP DDR3 256MB 400/490 MHz

    : $205.00

    lil bit of a price dif
  6. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    Yeah thats the same one that I have. But I would advise you to go for a better card if you could. Can you post you complete system specs?
     
  7. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    Yep

    AMD Sempron 3000+ 1.8 ghz
    80 GB HDD
    704 MB PC-3200 RAM
    64 MB VIA/S3G Unichrome Pro intergrated gfx card..

    and if you look at the post above i edit it some :p
  8. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    Like I said dont go no lower than a 6600 Nvidiawise. I dont know the equivilent in the Radeon.

    I would also consider a new PSU also. Look around for a cheap Antec Dual Rail One.
  9. F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,088

    The X800GTO Blows away the 6600, because it has 256-bit memory.
  10. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/default.php?page=1&cPath=93_74

    Plenty of Antec, but all over $100 :S i can't afford that.. Can some one just tell me which Video card they recommend where I can play any game out with all settings maxed?
  11. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    You will need to have 1GB of total RAM. Whatever is left from your budget should be left for a PSU and a Video Card.

    Whats your total budget?
  12. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    its my birtday soon so around $200 - $250
  13. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    okay I have some good news, I found a site that lists all computer places in NSW, Australia..

    I have found one with a XpertVision AGP X800GTO 256MB 256-bit DDR3 DVI TV-Out Manufacturer Website $195

    Which is what Sharkfood recommended..

    and a 400W Antec SmartPower 2.0 Power Supply Product Image Manufacturer Website $90

    RAM seems to be the same price every where so ill continue looking!
  14. F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,088

    Get the X800GTO, it will meet your needs! But your processor might hold it back.
  15. wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,605   +9

    Might, but not too much... Fortunately it's AMD , not a Celeron :unch:
  16. Sharkfood TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,192

    Well congrats on doing your homework Benan. It's amazing how much money you can save on the same/better hardware just by searching for the right vendor. :)

    That Antec PSU is one of the best, highest end models. While I strongly recommend the Antec PSU's, if you're strapped for budget, you may be able to find a unit with good wattage and 12v rail amps for a little cheaper to reserve more cash for mem/videocard.

    As you're limited on budget, you may also wish to consider a two part upgrade. Say get a good PSU and videocard for now, then expand memory later. You'll be able to play with as low as 512mb of ram, and once you ditch your integrated, you'll have a full 768MB of memory avail. After doing some pagefile work and hoping you have a fairly fast hard disk, we can likely optimize things so you'll be able to play okay, but with given stalls/stutters for pagefile use making planes a bit rough. Just deal with some slightly lower settings and stay out of jets for a month or two until you can get a 1 gig stick. :)
  17. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    so should I get this video card?

    I have found one with a XpertVision AGP X800GTO 256MB 256-bit DDR3 DVI TV-Out Manufacturer Website $195
  18. Sharkfood TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,192

    The X800GTO comes highly recommended for online gamers. It is simply the best bang for the buck card for games like BF2, Half-Life2, Counter Strike, Quake3/4, UT2003, etc.etc.

    It has a full 12-pipelines with 256 bit memory interface. This allows you to not only play meatier games, but at higher resolutions and room for adding additional texture filtering (anisotropic filtering) and even AA in most cases without much measurable detriment in frame rate.

    One thing to know though is the X800GTO is a PS/VS 2.0 card. This means the rare/few NEW games that support HDR will only allow bloom on this card. You can use HDR on Source Engine games though (such as Lost Coast or Counter Strike). It's just the rare few FP16 HDR games available. There aren't many of these games: Oblivion- which the X800GTO still plays incredibly well at high resolutions and all other settings maxed, and a few obscure titles (Splinter Cell, the latest Tomb Raider, Age Of Empires III will get *slightly* better looking water with SM3.0 vs 2.0, etc.).

    It basically trades FP16 HDR and SM3.0 for blazing online game performance.

    Unfortunately, you wont find a 12-pipe card with 256 bit memory interface with these features anywhere near this price point. Which is a bit silly also since FP16 HDR and SM3.0 also have a very large performance hit associated with them also.

    For avid online gamers, I usually recommend/implement the X800GTO's as some of the Sapphire models will come with 16-pipes vs 12. And while I do not recommend it, many owners have also been able to unlock those 4 extra pipes by flashing the BIOS. Even at 12-pipes, these are several fold faster/more powerful than their closest price point match at the most popular games.

    They DO consume a lot of power though and also can get pretty hot. They do assume a good power supply and adequate case ventilation (i.e. a fan or two). For BF2, they have zippo slow downs even in the newer Armored Fury and Special Forces maps, whereas our 6600GT (8-pipe job) has a number of slowdowns in these games.. plus lots of framerate dives when piloting a jet.
  19. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    If and when you buy RAM.

    How many slots have you got for RAM and are they all being used? What speeds are they running at?

    Make sure you find out the above before you buy any RAM.

    If you have two slots its best to have two 512MB RAM sticks to make that gig. You might run into compatibility and speed issues mixing ram sizes, speeds and brands. So make sure they're all the same.

    Find out what speeds and types of RAM your motherboard is compatible with.

    If I were you I would save up a little and make sure you fill your RAM slots with equally sized RAM sticks of the same brand to make that gig.

    Good RAM will improve your Gaming and overall system performance alot!
  20. Benan Newcomer, in training Posts: 147

    when i brought this comp, it come with 256 mB stick 64 MB shared with gfx card, so i brought an extra 512 MB.. its Kingston DDR400 (PC3200) theres only 2 slots, if i get a new GFX card i can take out my 256 MB and replace with 512

    Sharkfood, half the stuff yuor saying i don't understand, pipeline etc.. can you tell me should i get the X800GTO Series? will it play any game i want? heres a list of games I want to play

    -Counter Strike: Source
    -Half-Life 2
    -Battlefield 2
    -Age of empires 3
    -The sims 2
    -Call of duty 2
    -FEAR
    -American Army

    and pretty much any first person shooter, as i have had posted in a previous post.. The game American Army and more games that are being released these days need a 256 MB card to play.. so im just hoping I wont need to upgrade if I do get this card, also the best thing about my birthday is it is a couple months near christmas, so If i for the powerpack and video card on my birthday.. and RAM at christmas..

    Im still battled at what card I should get.. just a good one that plays all games