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ISPs testing technology to intercept illegal music downloads

By Matthew
Aug 21, 2009
  1. strategic

    strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274

    Is it me, or am I missing something???
    If you guys actually read the article, it doesn't say anywhere that peoples houses will be raided or fines charged. If a certain site allows this to happen, they are shut down, and they are punished. Why is it that everyone wants to interpret their own version of the story?
     
  2. OneArmedScissor

    OneArmedScissor TS Rookie Posts: 49

    Looking past privacy issues, the problem is that if they're taking money through some previously unheard of system, then who gets it?
    I'd bet my life that some vile organization like the RIAA just eats it all in the name of "recouping the cost of piracy," and artists never see a penny of it.
    Just look at the wording of the article:
    "Bermeister, ISPs, and the music industry are all enthused about the potential widespread implementation of Copyrouter."
    Bernmeister makes money. The ISPs may make money, and get the RIAA off their backs. The music industry makes money.
    But as always, that does not include the artists, and they will be left out completely. This isn't something covered in record label contracts, and even in the event that it works the same as iTunes, where artists make a whopping few cents per song, it's still a crock of s*** to assert that this solves the issue of "theft."
    The real problem all along has been that artists don't get paid by record labels, as they're always finding more ways to wriggle their way out of it. This is just another one.
    They make it sound like a perfect system, but it's left wide open to abuse. It's not as if every musician on the planet is clamoring for something like this. It's the suits and ties that are rich enough from screwing the artists with questionable contract clauses as it is.
    People will never stop downloading, specifically with the intention of avoiding paying for it, so long as that is the case.
     
  3. I certainly hope it works.

    I am sick of lazy good for nothing SOB's stealing digital media and or games they did not pay for.
     
  4. This is a perfect case of unintended consequences hurting innocent people and doing NOTHING to prevent file sharing (which I don't belive is piracy or theft because there is not a depletion of the supply of property btw).

    Innocent people who aren't aware of the 100000000 different ways this is going to be defeated will get plastered and everyone who they intend to stop won't even probably notice this stupid server routine is running.

    How about evolving your business model to adapt to emerging trends like everyone else has to??
     
  5. xempler

    xempler TS Rookie Posts: 24

    I pay my ISP provider to provide me with a internet connection...period....not to police the internet.
    Once they start with this...it opens the door and next thing you know you're paying for all sorts of things you never imagined you would while lining the pockets of these corporate money *****s.
     
  6. Twister123

    Twister123 TS Rookie Posts: 219

    I imagine people who download stuff illegally will receive an itemised bill , of what and when was downloaded , failure to pay will result in fines or jail , there's a government task force in Ireland called c.a.b , they send tax bills to criminals who can't prove how they made there money , effectively striping them of there wealth . its not the same thing but the principals the same .
     
  7. Twister123

    Twister123 TS Rookie Posts: 219


    your on another planet man , your ISP won't police you but when requested to hand over info they have to or risk losing there licence .

    and as regards paying for stuff you never imagined , you can't always expect a free lunch .
     
  8. dam good point!
     
  9. luvhuffer

    luvhuffer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 638

    I pay $9 a month for Rhapsody and download as much as I want. Do you think this program will recognize that the songs I'm downloading are protected content? The last illegal song I download was "Submission" by the Sex Pistols. It was a very slow download, took about 1 1/2 hours. It ended up being Frank Sinatra doing "My Way", tagged as country and western genre. My times more valuable than wasting it on that p2p crap.
     
  10. Twister123

    Twister123 TS Rookie Posts: 219

    this will change the net if its rolled out in the states , but someone will find a way to get around it , resulting in a type of underground culture .
     
  11. I wonder if it can detect .zip or .rar albums or anything like that. If it can't detect that, it's only going to catch the lazy people, and the common users. I'm pretty sure no one will ever be able to fully stop piracy. you can't really stop anything from happening, and it's not like the companies aren't prepared for it. That would be like trying to sell a product in a store and expecting it to never get stolen, it's just stupid.
     
     
  12. I've been a musician for years now and been posting original material on the net for years also.Some people wish to donate and some dont. it does not really matter as real artists only care for his or her music to be heard. I myself still make a decent living and am able to keep doing what I love. greed is the music industry, I understand that musicans want to get paid, but millions of dollars, comon! how much money does one need to be happy? Money usually currupts..
     
  13. That will Never Work.most p2p program encrypt the connection.
     
  14. Thats because u dont know the best P2p Around.u can donload anything in the net Fast and Secure.u just have to know the right tools.
     
  15. xempler

    xempler TS Rookie Posts: 24

    What you heck are you taking about. I am talking about the ISP implementing technology that determines your online activities and then charging you extra for it. I stated their job is to provide a internet connection and only a connection....not charge me for whatever they feel like deserves charging...who's getting a free lunch then. No, I don't expect a free lunch but I don't expect to have my lunch taken from me either.
     
  16. The only thing I have to say to that is good luck.When it comes to computers, and hackers, there is no stopping people if they want to get something online.There are a ton of programs that can stop this kind of thing already, let alone when they try this crap later on.My only advice to give to those trying to stop illegal downloading is...give up.You've already lost, and you'll keep losing with all the great hackers and program designers out there making it safe for illegal downloaders.
     
  17. Legit music artists make the most of their money performing live.

    The world-renouned jazz organist Joey DeFrancesco performs 200 days a year.


    Fakes make the most of their money selling albums.

    I will pay 50 dollars to watch a LIVE performance. I will not pay a dime for a pre-recorded work.
     
  18. dont get mad coz your music is **** and you dont make enough money from normal record deals and sales... come on everyone that has a computer and likes music has probly download at least 1 track "illegaly" i think this idea is good and bad.. good because the music/movie/game indrusty will make more money to make more stuff but really.. they dont make enough money already? there is plenty of people that buy the cd or the game or the movie for the soul purpose of the cover/case and collecting it for memory purposes and such.. Bermeister is just helping the ISPs get your hard earned dollar after trying to save you from them.. IMO he is a sellout... enough rabbling off topic to the fact that this clown probaly is useless
     
  19. And this is their sales blurb. Your activities will be logged and reported to the police. Recent changes to the TIA will make it legal to intercept your downloads too.

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/NEWS/PDFs/081016_copyrouter.pdf
     
  20. It is quite sad that people believe they own music that is not theirs.... You are just common thieves. So what if the music industry makes money and that upsets you, isnt that why they are in business? To make money?
    If you think "things" should be free go and ask your local car dealer for their latest and greatest vehicle for free and see what happens.... Oh but music is different!! You all make me laugh. A system will come along and knock you all out because there is TOO MUCH MONEY AT STAKE! The governments cannot and will not condone illegal activity! Dont forget they make money from taxes and they ALSO miss out when you steal ....

    So.. Steal now for your time is running short.
     
  21. strategic

    strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274

    Finally... a post from a 'guest' that actually makes sense!
    I guess all guests aren't the same after all...
    Thanks for your input :)
     
  22. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,804   +916

    "He Who Steals My Purse Steals Trash"

    I heard that a long, long time ago.

    P2P seems to be the most prevalent venue for illegal downloads. P2P has pretty much become a "poison apple" given the frequency and severity of infections contracted by participating in P2P.

    So, then it seems that websites such as Techspot are "obligated" to assist with the removal of said infections.

    So relax, we have nothing better to do than help with the removal of these infections. After all, illegal downloaders are "entitled" to free assistance, along with the "entitlement" to free music.

    Anyway, I guess I'm really getting old since most of today's music seems like a bunch of atonal noise and foul language, generated by a pack of rude and classless people. It doesn't seem worth stealing actually.

    As a frame of reference, I bought Taylor Swift's CD, but I wouldn't be caught dead listening to Kanye West, let alone illegally downloading it, and that's even if he paid me.
     
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