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ISPs testing technology to intercept illegal music downloads

Discussion in 'TechSpot News and Comments' started by Matthew, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. I used to be a big prince fan, Until he took one of his own fans to court for sharing a video of him at a concert ( which she attended ) on his own fan site..

    Now i will never buy anything prince related ever again.

    Get over yourselves entertainment industry please. If your job sucks so bad and people treat you so badly get a diffrent one!
  2. JudaZ TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 292

    ...*lol* yeah good luck with that ISP who dares to try . It does not take time to cirumvent .. I can do that right now .. Encrypt the traffic .. .the problem solved. If the ISP what to use massive computer power to decrypt highly incrypted traffic instead of delivering high speed and preformance to their custokmers..the failure will be theirs .
    After all, you have to decrypt ALL traffic to be able to find out if I'm sending mp3's
    .. then you have to dechipher if its an "illegal" music file or not.
    But before you even do that, you will have to get the courts approval to decrypt information that you maybe can determain is torrent traffic because of the nature of the traffic..but you cant be sure the client is not just downloading drivers from Asus site, the latest Linux distro of choice .. or corpoprate secrets that you have no leagal right what so ever to even think about decrypting.
    ...good night and good luck .... you have no chance in hell of doing this....so give it up..just give it up.
  3. JudaZ TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 292

    besides Bermeister and Kazaa couldnt even stop 1000's apon 1000's of vierus files posing as music in thoer system....what do they know about filtering traffic?
  4. Put out decent music and we'll be happy to pay for it. People download shared music because "free" is what it's worth.
  5. I can buy 100 blank cds for a tenner.
    I can get free studio quality recording software.
    I could knock a studio quality album together in an hour on my own.
    I can distribute it, And advertise it for free.

    Why the hell would i pay 12 pounds for an album when its completely obvious you are ripping me off...
  6. strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274

    Is it me, or am I missing something???
    If you guys actually read the article, it doesn't say anywhere that peoples houses will be raided or fines charged. If a certain site allows this to happen, they are shut down, and they are punished. Why is it that everyone wants to interpret their own version of the story?
     
  7. OneArmedScissor Newcomer, in training Posts: 49

    Looking past privacy issues, the problem is that if they're taking money through some previously unheard of system, then who gets it?
    I'd bet my life that some vile organization like the RIAA just eats it all in the name of "recouping the cost of piracy," and artists never see a penny of it.
    Just look at the wording of the article:
    "Bermeister, ISPs, and the music industry are all enthused about the potential widespread implementation of Copyrouter."
    Bernmeister makes money. The ISPs may make money, and get the RIAA off their backs. The music industry makes money.
    But as always, that does not include the artists, and they will be left out completely. This isn't something covered in record label contracts, and even in the event that it works the same as iTunes, where artists make a whopping few cents per song, it's still a crock of s*** to assert that this solves the issue of "theft."
    The real problem all along has been that artists don't get paid by record labels, as they're always finding more ways to wriggle their way out of it. This is just another one.
    They make it sound like a perfect system, but it's left wide open to abuse. It's not as if every musician on the planet is clamoring for something like this. It's the suits and ties that are rich enough from screwing the artists with questionable contract clauses as it is.
    People will never stop downloading, specifically with the intention of avoiding paying for it, so long as that is the case.
  8. I certainly hope it works.

    I am sick of lazy good for nothing SOB's stealing digital media and or games they did not pay for.
  9. This is a perfect case of unintended consequences hurting innocent people and doing NOTHING to prevent file sharing (which I don't belive is piracy or theft because there is not a depletion of the supply of property btw).

    Innocent people who aren't aware of the 100000000 different ways this is going to be defeated will get plastered and everyone who they intend to stop won't even probably notice this stupid server routine is running.

    How about evolving your business model to adapt to emerging trends like everyone else has to??
  10. xempler Newcomer, in training Posts: 24

    I pay my ISP provider to provide me with a internet connection...period....not to police the internet.
    Once they start with this...it opens the door and next thing you know you're paying for all sorts of things you never imagined you would while lining the pockets of these corporate money *****s.
  11. Twister123 Newcomer, in training Posts: 219

    I imagine people who download stuff illegally will receive an itemised bill , of what and when was downloaded , failure to pay will result in fines or jail , there's a government task force in Ireland called c.a.b , they send tax bills to criminals who can't prove how they made there money , effectively striping them of there wealth . its not the same thing but the principals the same .
  12. Twister123 Newcomer, in training Posts: 219


    your on another planet man , your ISP won't police you but when requested to hand over info they have to or risk losing there licence .

    and as regards paying for stuff you never imagined , you can't always expect a free lunch .
  13. dam good point!
  14. luvhuffer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 628

    I pay $9 a month for Rhapsody and download as much as I want. Do you think this program will recognize that the songs I'm downloading are protected content? The last illegal song I download was "Submission" by the Sex Pistols. It was a very slow download, took about 1 1/2 hours. It ended up being Frank Sinatra doing "My Way", tagged as country and western genre. My times more valuable than wasting it on that p2p crap.
  15. Twister123 Newcomer, in training Posts: 219

    this will change the net if its rolled out in the states , but someone will find a way to get around it , resulting in a type of underground culture .
  16. I wonder if it can detect .zip or .rar albums or anything like that. If it can't detect that, it's only going to catch the lazy people, and the common users. I'm pretty sure no one will ever be able to fully stop piracy. you can't really stop anything from happening, and it's not like the companies aren't prepared for it. That would be like trying to sell a product in a store and expecting it to never get stolen, it's just stupid.
  17. I've been a musician for years now and been posting original material on the net for years also.Some people wish to donate and some dont. it does not really matter as real artists only care for his or her music to be heard. I myself still make a decent living and am able to keep doing what I love. greed is the music industry, I understand that musicans want to get paid, but millions of dollars, comon! how much money does one need to be happy? Money usually currupts..
  18. That will Never Work.most p2p program encrypt the connection.
  19. Thats because u dont know the best P2p Around.u can donload anything in the net Fast and Secure.u just have to know the right tools.
  20. xempler Newcomer, in training Posts: 24

    What you heck are you taking about. I am talking about the ISP implementing technology that determines your online activities and then charging you extra for it. I stated their job is to provide a internet connection and only a connection....not charge me for whatever they feel like deserves charging...who's getting a free lunch then. No, I don't expect a free lunch but I don't expect to have my lunch taken from me either.